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:::::::::: I can see from people's comments reviewed that this is often '''not''' their first wiki editing experience. Tom Haws is a '''Wikipedia administrator''' for crying out loud (see his user page links). I'm not new to editing (non-fandom/gamepedia) wikis, and I find the admin behavior here poor. I see Margotbean disallowing things that appear to stem from a lack of MW knowledge. I see other's comments on this also, as well as missing wiki features that would invalidate the excuses. Excuses or not, there are ways to treat people that are respectful, and ways that aren't. Telling someone they can do something to turn around and reverse that very thing is not respectful. Being short on staff or time is not a valid excuse, the behavior is why the team doesn't expand. '''Thank you Cole, for at least confirming that the poor behavior appears to be condoned, because at least this lets people know not to waste their time. I'd ask that this section of the conversation is never archived please'''.  

:::::::::: I can see from people's comments reviewed that this is often '''not''' their first wiki editing experience. Tom Haws is a '''Wikipedia administrator''' for crying out loud (see his user page links). I'm not new to editing (non-fandom/gamepedia) wikis, and I find the admin behavior here poor. I see Margotbean disallowing things that appear to stem from a lack of MW knowledge. I see other's comments on this also, as well as missing wiki features that would invalidate the excuses. Excuses or not, there are ways to treat people that are respectful, and ways that aren't. Telling someone they can do something to turn around and reverse that very thing is not respectful. Being short on staff or time is not a valid excuse, the behavior is why the team doesn't expand. '''Thank you Cole, for at least confirming that the poor behavior appears to be condoned, because at least this lets people know not to waste their time. I'd ask that this section of the conversation is never archived please'''.  

:::::::::: For a lot of gamers, contributing to a community's resources is half of the fun of gaming (this includes programmers and software engineers). Also, having a lack of proper policies and guidance is part of the problem (I see someone recently vandalized to this point, which I do '''not''' condone, but can certainly understand the impulse. Without robust policy documentation, Margotbean '''does''' make up the rules as she goes (to agree with the few lines I could read in the vandalism deletion summary--but stop please, vandalism is '''not''' the way to handle that). Margotbean also does not appear to treat all users the same. Further, bots are allowed on most wikis for a reason (you have no policy stating people can't, and anyone can edit via the MW API without you ever realizing they're using a bot, as long as it is well throttled). The ability to disable the edit API no longer exists in MW. The banned editor's ''real'' mistake was simply informing Margotbean of what she was ignorant to (she never would have known otherwise, if the user kept doing small throttled updates). Banning out of a lack of either knowledge or policies looks punitive, no matter how you slice it. The way things are done here is backwards (the Wikipedia Admin and other's spotted it quickly). Hopefully the other users who complained come back one day, if only to see they made the right choice. You have multiple different users here all saying similar things, which should tell you something. Conversation in private just allows the poor behavior to continue. [[User:User6789|User6789]] ([[User talk:User6789|talk]]) 01:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

:::::::::: For a lot of gamers, contributing to a community's resources is half of the fun of gaming (this includes programmers and software engineers). Also, having a lack of proper policies and guidance is part of the problem (I see someone recently vandalized to this point, which I do '''not''' condone, but can certainly understand the impulse). Without robust policy documentation, Margotbean '''does''' make up the rules as she goes (to agree with the few lines I could read in the vandalism deletion summary--but stop please, vandalism is '''not''' the way to handle that). Margotbean also does not appear to treat all users the same. Further, bots are allowed on most wikis for a reason (you have no policy stating people can't, and anyone can edit via the MW API without you ever realizing they're using a bot, as long as it is well throttled). The ability to disable the edit API no longer exists in MW. The banned editor's ''real'' mistake was simply informing Margotbean of what she was ignorant to (she never would have known otherwise, if the user kept doing small throttled updates). Banning out of a lack of either knowledge or policies looks punitive, no matter how you slice it. The way things are done here is backwards (the Wikipedia Admin and other's spotted it quickly). Hopefully the other users who complained come back one day, if only to see they made the right choice. You have multiple different users here all saying similar things, which should tell you something. Conversation in private just allows the poor behavior to continue. [[User:User6789|User6789]] ([[User talk:User6789|talk]]) 01:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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