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Hey, just following up on some changes that were made on the Catfish and Bundles page regarding Winter availability for the Catfish. [[User:Spiderkace|Spiderkace]] ([[User talk:Spiderkace|talk]]) 23:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Hey, just following up on some changes that were made on the Catfish and Bundles page regarding Winter availability for the Catfish. [[User:Spiderkace|Spiderkace]] ([[User talk:Spiderkace|talk]]) 23:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
:Hello Spiderkace! What's your question? [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 01:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
:Hello Spiderkace! What's your question? [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 01:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::Not so much a question but just looking to discuss the changes. Game code indicates Catfish is available in Winter in Rivers and Farm Maps Spring, Fall, and Winter while raining. It is also available in Summer/Winter in the Secret Woods while Raining. I guess the piece I'm getting hung up on besides grammar or formatting in which, obviously you would have the final say, is the Witch's Hut which is available during all seasons regardless of weather (as it's "indoors") and a Rain Totem wouldn't be needed. Would it be better to just exclude the Witch's Hut from the Bundles page (as the Community Center has likely been completed by this point and/or a Catfish probably has been caught before the Witch's Hut)? I was trying to get around this with phrasing the topic slightly differently than the other fish given its... unique situations. I suppose this also applies to the [[Catfish]] page itself, not just [[Bundles]]. <br /> <br /> Also, is there a reason the Bundles page doesn't have a TOC?
::Not so much a question but just looking to discuss the changes. Game code indicates Catfish is available in Winter in Rivers and Farm Maps Spring, Fall, and Winter while raining. It is also available in Summer/Winter in the Secret Woods while Raining. I guess the piece I'm getting hung up on besides grammar or formatting in which, obviously you would have the final say, is the Witch's Hut which is available during all seasons regardless of weather (as it's "indoors") and a Rain Totem wouldn't be needed. Would it be better to just exclude the Witch's Hut from the Bundles page (as the Community Center has likely been completed by this point and/or a Catfish probably has been caught before the Witch's Hut)? I was trying to get around this with phrasing the topic slightly differently than the other fish given its... unique situations. I suppose this also applies to the [[Catfish]] page itself, not just [[Bundles]]. <br /> <br /> Also, is there a reason the Bundles page doesn't have a TOC? ::[[User:Spiderkace|Spiderkace]] ([[User talk:Spiderkace|talk]]) 14:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::[[User:Spiderkace|Spiderkace]] ([[User talk:Spiderkace|talk]]) 14:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::: Do we know if indoor areas ignore the location context's weather? Cuz in my reading, it doesn't. [[User:Atravita|Atravita]] ([[User talk:Atravita|talk]]) 14:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::: Do we know if indoor areas ignore the location context's weather? Cuz in my reading, it doesn't. [[User:Atravita|Atravita]] ([[User talk:Atravita|talk]]) 14:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::::That is the question! No one should be changing the wiki until we have confirmed the information in-game (by stepping through the code or otherwise). Right now, I don't know if the Witch's Swamp follows weather outside for the purposes of fishing. I also haven't thoroughly tested the alternate farms' maps for fishing.
::::That is the question! No one should be changing the wiki until we have confirmed the information in-game (by stepping through the code or otherwise). Right now, I don't know if the Witch's Swamp follows weather outside for the purposes of fishing. I also haven't thoroughly tested the alternate farms' maps for fishing.
::::So, we need to proceed with caution here.
::::So, we need to proceed with caution here.
::::The Bundles page has a TOC, it's at the top right of the page. ;) [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 17:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
::::The Bundles page has a TOC, it's at the top right of the page. ;) [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 17:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
:::::Disregard Bundles TOC, I'm blind.
:::::If the code isn't to be trusted, what is? If the code indicates one thing, and the game displays another, is that not a bug versus incorrect information? I'm cross-referencing data from Data\Locations, Data\Fish, and the game code at Farm.cs. I can understand the interior locations conundrum, but I'm only going down this rabbit hole because I found (what I thought) was missing or incorrect information with Sunfish locations, where two wiki pages stated one thing but a third indicated something else, which made me dig into the game code to find out what was really going on. Say the word and I'll stop but I'm spending a lot of time trying to find the correct information via the source itself.
:::::Also, what did you mean about the map for Carp? Carp is correctly showing the Mountain Lake, are you saying it's not showing Bug Lair, Sewers, and Secret Woods as well? What is the limit for the map? Where is the map pulling its information from? What if we could do something like making a .png manually instead of pulling from wherever it pulls now to keep consistency with the other pages? [[User:Spiderkace|Spiderkace]] ([[User talk:Spiderkace|talk]]) 18:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)