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::Thanks for the response! Yeah I can try to edit it. I wanted to double check if the in-game formulas are correct as stated on the page, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that. If they are, I can share what I have. [[User:APost-It|APost-It]] ([[User talk:APost-It|talk]]) 01:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
::Thanks for the response! Yeah I can try to edit it. I wanted to double check if the in-game formulas are correct as stated on the page, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that. If they are, I can share what I have. [[User:APost-It|APost-It]] ([[User talk:APost-It|talk]]) 01:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
:::I added a code reference (it should have been done long ago, I'm so glad you asked about this subject!) -- the formula can be found in <tt>StardewValley.Crop::harvest</tt>. For your convenience, I believe the relevant portion, copied from the v1.5 code, is:
:::I added a code reference (it should have been done long ago, I'm so glad you asked about this subject!) -- the formula can be found in <samp>StardewValley.Crop::harvest</samp>. For your convenience, I believe the relevant portion, copied from the v1.5 code, is:
:::<syntaxhighlight lang="C#">
:::<syntaxhighlight lang="C#">
double chanceForGoldQuality = 0.2 * ((double)Game1.player.FarmingLevel / 10.0) + 0.2 * (double)fertilizerQualityLevel * (((double)Game1.player.FarmingLevel + 2.0) / 12.0) + 0.01;
double chanceForGoldQuality = 0.2 * ((double)Game1.player.FarmingLevel / 10.0) + 0.2 * (double)fertilizerQualityLevel * (((double)Game1.player.FarmingLevel + 2.0) / 12.0) + 0.01;
:::My numbers are different than what LahaiRoi got. My numbers were all the same as what the page already has for all fertilizers, except the Deluxe. I think the actual formulas are, based on the given code (forgive my pseudo code):
:::My numbers are different than what LahaiRoi got. My numbers were all the same as what the page already has for all fertilizers, except the Deluxe. I think the actual formulas are, based on the given code (forgive my pseudo code):
:::<syntaxhighlight>
:::<syntaxhighlight lang="C#">
iridium: gold chance / 2
iridium: gold chance / 2
::::[[User:LahaiRoi|LahaiRoi]] ([[User talk:LahaiRoi|talk]]) 17:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
::::[[User:LahaiRoi|LahaiRoi]] ([[User talk:LahaiRoi|talk]]) 17:42, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
::::Here are my exact formulas:
::::Here are my exact formulas:
::::<syntaxhighlight>
::::<syntaxhighlight lang="C#">
gold chance (r) = 0.2*(farminglevel/10) + 0.2*fertlevel*((farminglevel+2)/12)+0.01
gold chance (r) = 0.2*(farminglevel/10) + 0.2*fertlevel*((farminglevel+2)/12)+0.01
iridium chance = if fertlevel >= 3
iridium chance = if fertlevel >= 3
:::::If that doesn't make sense to you, add a few intermediate columns that calculate the chance in parts. Make a column that calculates the silver chance, then another column that includes the silver chance and the probability the code checks for silver quality.
:::::If that doesn't make sense to you, add a few intermediate columns that calculate the chance in parts. Make a column that calculates the silver chance, then another column that includes the silver chance and the probability the code checks for silver quality.
:::::I'm confident that what I have is correct, please view my spreadsheet for the full calculations. If you compare mine to the current tables, all my percentages match, except for the Deluxe Fertilizer table, which cannot possibly be correct since it lists a nonzero chance of harvesting a regular quality. If everyone here agrees, I will edit the table.
:::::I'm confident that what I have is correct, please view my spreadsheet for the full calculations. If you compare mine to the current tables, all my percentages match, except for the Deluxe Fertilizer table, which cannot possibly be correct since it lists a nonzero chance of harvesting a regular quality. If everyone here agrees, I will edit the table.--[[User:APost-It|APost-It]] ([[User talk:APost-It|talk]]) 20:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::Alright I see. I changed my spreadsheet and it matches yours exactly. So ya I had it wrong.
::::::You're good to change it. Thanks for helping me out with this.
::::::[[User:LahaiRoi|LahaiRoi]] ([[User talk:LahaiRoi|talk]]) 22:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
== XP per Day ==
Based on Margotbean's suggestion to move XP per Day here rather than including it in crops table in crops page. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 22:58, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello margotbean, I think XP per day is important as it is useful for determining the most efficient crops to level up your farming or foraging skills.
There is slight difference to the most profitable crops as XP per day does not consider the price of seeds.
I am going to use your spreadsheets to calculate the XP per day, edit on all crops table is on the way. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 09:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
This is the spreadsheet I used, [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zNaPQp-6GwIzm2ucuIkphNpSdECw3cI/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114495551717477095381&rtpof=true&sd=true spreadsheet].
Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Missing xp/d values updated. Please check. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 00:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
:So, this is the start of a discussion about the value of XP per day. Let's leave the discussion open ''before'' making the edits, please!
:Below is a mockup of the proposed section:
<blockquote>
<div style="font-size: larger; font-weight: bold;">XP per Day</div>
Due to seed price, there is a slight calculation differences between the most profitable crops (Gold per day) and most XP yielding crops (XP per day). High quality crops grant the same amount of XP as normal-quality crops.
The general formula is:
<code>Minimum XP per Day = (Max Harvests × XP per Harvest) / Growing Days </code>
'''Growing Days''' = <code>Days to Maturity + ((Max Harvests − 1) × Days to Regrow)</code>
'''Days to Maturity''' and '''Days to Regrow''' are listed in each table.
'''Max Harvests''' is normally 1, but for crops that continue to produce, it is the actual number of harvests that can be obtained in the growing season(s).
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left; margin-right: 18px;"
|-
!colspan="3"|Spring
|-
! Crop
! XP
! XP/d
|-
|{{name|Coffee Bean}}
| 4
| 1.32 <sup>1</sup><br /> 1.63 <sup>2</sup>
|-
|{{name|Tulip}}
| 7
| 1.15
|-
|{{name|Unmilled Rice}}
| 7
| 0.86 <sup>3</sup><br /> 1.15 <sup>4</sup>
|-
|{{name|Parsnip}}
| 8
| 1.95
|-
|{{name|Green Bean}}
| 9
| 2.08
|-
|{{name|Blue Jazz}}
| 10
| 1.47
|-
|{{name|Garlic}}
| 12
| 2.93
|-
|{{name|Potato}}
| 14
| 2.38
|-
|{{name|Kale}}
| 17
| 2.91
|-
|{{name|Strawberry}}
| 18
| 3.84 <sup>5</sup><br /> 3.07 <sup>6</sup>
|-
|{{name|Cauliflower}}
| 23
| 1.98
|-
|{{name|Rhubarb}}
| 26
| 1.97
|-
|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
| 38
| 3.97*
|-
|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
| 14
| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
|}
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left; margin-right: 18px;"
|-
!colspan="3"|Summer
|-
! Crop
! XP
! XP/d
|-
|{{name|Coffee Bean}}
| 4
| 1.32 <sup>1</sup><br /> 1.63 <sup>2</sup>
|-
|{{name|Hops}}
| 6
| 3.74
|-
|{{name|Wheat}}
| 6
| 1.49
|-
|{{name|Hot Pepper}}
| 9
| 2.67
|-
|{{name|Blueberry}}
| 10
| 2.28
|-
|{{name|Corn}}
| 10
| 1.58 <sup>1</sup><br /> 2.09 <sup>2</sup>
|-
|{{name|Tomato}}
| 12
| 2.17
|-
|{{name|Sunflower}}
| 14
| 1.78
|-
|{{name|Radish}}
| 15
| 2.57
|-
|{{name|Summer Spangle}}
| 15
| 1.93
|-
|{{name|Poppy}}
| 20
| 2.88
|-
|{{name|Melon}}
| 27
| 2.27
|-
|{{name|Red Cabbage}}
| 28
| 3.09
|-
|{{name|Starfruit}}
| 43
| 3.37
|-
|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
| 38
| 3.97*
|-
|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
| 14
| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
|-
|{{name|Taro Root}}
| 16
| 1.65 <sup>3</sup><br /> 2.35 <sup>4</sup>
|-
|{{name|Pineapple}}
| 30
| 2.83
|}
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left;"
|-
!colspan="3"|Fall
|-
! Crop
! XP
! XP/d
|-
|{{name|Wheat}}
| 6
| 1.49
|-
|{{name|Corn}}
| 10
| 1.58 <sup>1</sup><br /> 2.09 <sup>2</sup>
|-
|{{name|Eggplant}}
| 12
| 2.34
|-
|{{name|Bok Choy}}
| 14
| 3.57
|-
|{{name|Cranberries}}
| 14
| 2.53
|-
|{{name|Grape}}
| 14
| 3.43
|-
|{{name|Sunflower}}
| 14
| 1.78
|-
|{{name|Beet}}
| 16
| 2.75
|-
|{{name|Amaranth}}
| 21
| 2.99
|-
|{{name|Artichoke}}
| 22
| 2.71
|-
|{{name|Yam}}
| 22
| 2.17
|-
|{{name|Fairy Rose}}
| 29
| 2.44
|-
|{{name|Pumpkin}}
| 31
| 2.35
|-
|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
| 38
| 3.97*
|-
|{{name|Sweet Gem Berry}}
| 64
| 2.67
|-
|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
| 14
| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
|}
{{Clear}}
:<sup>1</sup> 1 season
:<sup>2</sup> 2 seasons
:<sup>3</sup> Unirrigated
:<sup>4</sup> Irrigated
:<sup>5</sup> Planted on Spring 1
:<sup>6</sup> Planted on Spring 13/14
:<sup>7</sup> Planting season
:<sup>8</sup> Each season thereafter
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Assumes seed crafted for free from [[Ancient Seed]] Artifact, grown for 3 seasons.</blockquote>
:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
::My bad for the edit, thanks for opening the discussion! [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 06:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
==Notation==
The formula <samp>XP=||16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)||</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)