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Transfer watchlist from old wiki

See User:Pathoschild/Transfer watchlist for instructions if you want to transfer your watchlist from the old wiki. —Pathoschild (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Some problems about Chinese wiki

After moving back the wiki to the old domain, there are some problems on Chinese wiki that I can't solve. So I post these problems here, hoping that any administrator can help me.

The namespace of 使用模组 (means "using modding") which is translated inappropriately has been moved to 模组 (means "modding"). I had created two pages 模组:使用指南/header and 模组:物品数据 before changing namespace, but now these two pages are gone. They are still under the namespace Main, and can be searched using the search bar. Is there any way to recover these two pages other than copying the content directly from stardewcommunitywiki.com ?
I have to asking for moving my bot account Horizon Bot into Bots Group again. Katzeus helped move the account: User_talk:Katzeus.
The links of 苹果酒森林 (Cindersap Forest) and 冒险家公会 (Adventurer's Guild) on the Chinese main page need to be updated to 煤矿森林 and 探险家公会 according to the translation in the game.
I used to ask Margotbean for help on Chinese wiki (really thanks for his help), but I have noticed that he is not in the administrator group now. Does this means that I have to post on this page when I meet other problems in the future?
The page Help:编辑入门(Help:Editing) could be re-added to the Chinese main page. Margotbean helped add this link before: User_talk:Katzeus

Code

|  id="mainbannermiddle" width="40%" style="padding: 9px; text-align:center; margin:1px;" |[[File:Main_Logo_ZH.png|center|link=]]<span style="font-size:22px; font-weight:bold;">欢迎来到[[Stardew Valley]] Wiki</span>
由玩家自发维护和更新，任何人都可以编辑！您可以参考[[帮助:编辑入门]]来参与编辑。

我们目前有[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}篇]]关于由[[ConcernedApe]]开发的星露谷物语的词条。

Besides these, I want to know why the talk pages, user_talk pages and user pages are not transfered to this site? Does every user have to copy their old pages manually? Thanks ! Horizon98 (talk) 11:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Horizon! I created the pages for #1, but you may have to mark the pages in the Main namespace for deletion (I searched for them but didn't find them, maybe you will have better luck!)

ColitoCole will have to give your bot the appropriate group rights, I don't seem to have that ability.

Cole and I are discussing how to handle the help page. It might go in the left sidebar instead of on the main page. It might need to be rewritten also. Unfortunately, I have to ask for your patience on that one.

User talk pages have to be moved manually, yes. Your old talk page is here: https://zh.stardewcommunitywiki.com/User_talk:Horizon98

At the moment, I can't edit Template:Mainmenu to change the links, but we're working on it.

Good to see you on the new wiki! margotbean (talk) 18:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for all you have done! But 模组:使用指南/header and 模组:物品数据 are both under the Main namespace as well as the Modding namespace now. I don't know how to remove them from the Main namespace. Maybe there are two pages using the same title, and the page under the Main namespace is hidden. You can find them listed as the second and the third one from this link. Horizon98 (talk) 05:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

The tech people are working on it! Thanks for reporting these odd events, please keep doing so! margotbean (talk) 06:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch version of the game

I noticed that the Nintendo Switch version is missing on the main page and I was wondering if that is on purpose or on accident —Uhdoro (talk) 12:02, 21 February 2021‎ (UTC)

It's there for me. Are you seeing something different? —Pathoschild (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Website Malfunction Database Problem

For the last 2 or 3 days certain wiki pages keep malfunctioning, displaying an error instead of the expected page. It was just happening again about an hour ago, but of course I can't replicate the problem right now when I want to copy/paste the exact error. The error says something about the database not working. It does seem to be pages that might want to load data which are affected (like specific item pages, eg. sap or oyster), so that makes sense. When it starts happening, it generally keeps happening and refreshing the page a few minutes later or trying a different item does not work.

If it happens again I'll try to edit this (first time user, but I assume I can edit... I'll "rtfm" later) with the error details. I'm fairly new to Stardew Valley and am referencing this site a _lot_... do you want me to keep updating this to let you know when it's down (or "PM" someone or something?). If this is a common occurrence for you and there's a big red "Restart Database" button you have somewhere that you press when it messes up, I would be willing to press it for you whenever I see that error start happening if that would be useful for you. Thank you for your great and useful wiki! Maxxie (talk) 02:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Update: it's happening again. Here is the error I'm getting right now: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database)

That's all it shows, that text on a white background.

Interesting note: I just did view page source on it, and I see the source for the page that should be showing up. This can be used as a workaround for now for users like me to still access some of the information we're after even when it's erroring. Maxxie (talk) 05:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I can reproduce this, e.g. with the Fall page. Signed in as a user: No issues. Signed out: always white page "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database)" Tested on multiple browsers and on 2 different internet connections - same result Dubesor (talk) 05:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Try clearing your browser's cache (Ctrl+F5) or by going to "History" and clearing browsing data, and see if the problem persists. Please report back if this doesn't fix the issue. margotbean (talk) 20:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

cleared cache (one of my browser is set to reset everything on close anyways) and issue persists. This is an issue with certain pages only (I can reproduce always on: Fall, Sam, Ginger Island, Calendar for example) and is reported by several people (e.g. reddit). This issue was never present on the old wiki. Dubesor (talk) 21:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, the server people are going to look into it. Thanks for reporting this issue! margotbean (talk) 21:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

For users experiencing this problem: The workaround is to add "?action=purge" to the end of the url, then click "ok" to purge cache. The page should display normally. --margotbean (talk) 21:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Sebastian's page formatting in his gift preferences is messed up as of the last few edits

just as it says in title

The page for Marnie's info doesn't work

Looks like some recent incorrect edits on the Sebastian page have been reverted, and should be back to normal. I don't see any issues on Marnie's page. If you're referring to an issue where the page isn't loading, here's a comment on resolving that: For users experiencing this problem: The workaround is to add ?action=purge to the end of the url, then click "ok" to purge cache. The page should display normally. - Odin (talk) 14:16, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki's name in other languages (About SEO)

When I search the keyword "site:zh.stardewvalleywiki.com" on most popular search engine Baidu in China, there are only 13 results. While on the second popular search engine (maybe) Bing in China, there are 16,900 results. And Google doesn't provide service in China. So I will use Bing in the following part. Usually, we search the keyword like "<Translated name of Stardew Valley> + <Translated keyword> (such as 收集包 (Bundles) )". In this situation, there's no result from this site in the first few pages. But when I search the keyword like "stardew valley + <Translated keyword>", this site's page is the first or the second result usually. Therefore, I propose this is beacause the translated name of stardew valley is not contained in the page. Maybe changing the sitename in other languages to "<translated name of the game> + <translated name of wiki>" or "Stardew Valley Wiki | <translated name of the game> + <translated name of wiki>" has better SEO performence in search engines. Horizon98 (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I've translated the name of the game and the word "wiki" in zh:Template:InfoboxSEO. Let's see if that helps! margotbean (talk) 18:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I believe the SEO issue in China is due to lack of external linking (references). This is not something we can help much, though. iBugOne (talk) 8:13, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I tried to search some keywords with bing today. Here's the results:

when I searched the keyword "星露谷社区中心" (means "Stardew Valley Community Center"), zh:社区中心 (means Community Center) whose pagename is "<translatedname of Community Center> + <translated name of the game> + <translated name of wiki>" is listed as the third.

While I searched the keyword "星露谷姜岛" (means "Stardew Valley Ginger Island"), I couldn't found any results from this wiki in the first few pages. The pagename of zh:姜岛 (means Ginger Island) is now "<translatedname of Ginger Island> + Stardew Valley Wiki". (Because the page doesn't use the template InfoboxSEO.) But I found some results from this wiki in the 4th page: zh:姜岛图腾柱 (means Island Obelisk) and zh:岛屿办事处 (means Island Field Office) which both use the template InfoboxSEO.

Searching the keyword "星露谷收集包" (means "Stardew Valley Bundles"), the first result from this page is zh:社区中心 (means Community Center). As far as I'm concerned, it's the same reason as the second keyword. zh:收集包 doesn't use the template InfoboxSEO too.

I don't know whether the sitename of the page or the keywords in the template InfoboxSEO influences the results of the search engines. Thus, could you try to change the sitename of the whole Chinese wiki? Thanks! Horizon98 (talk) 09:22, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I will talk with the server people about possible solutions to this problem. Thanks for reporting and providing links! We'll see what we can do to make the official wiki the 1st search result. margotbean (talk) 17:40, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Old Wiki

Hi. I am Giles, formerly Butterbur. I have spent three months unavoidably separated from this Wiki, and returned to find a new Wiki, sans my user pages. Is the old wiki, or an archive of it, still available so that I can retrieve a few things? Giles (talk) 02:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

The old wiki is located at: https://stardewcommunitywiki.com/Stardew_Valley_Wiki

Welcome back! margotbean (talk) 02:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks much! Good to be back! Giles (talk) 02:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Also worth mentioning that you can transfer your watchlist with this script: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/User:Pathoschild/Transfer_watchlist. - Odin (talk) 16:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtfulness, Odin. I'm not familiar with the console, though, and it seems not to work for me. Giles (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Image files not updating

I tried updating 2 images File:Walnutroutetosimonsays.PNG and File:Walnuthiddennorthsouthpassage.PNG, I received no error and the entry shows the file size of the new image, however thumbnail as well as image remained the same as if it's still the previous version. Is this user error or something on the server's end? I tried purging my cache and tested between 3 browsers (Firefox, Brave and Chrome) and the issue is replicated on each one (for viewing, not for uploading - I don't want to spam retry). Dubesor (talk) 10:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I've had this problem before, in fact it just takes a while to update. JaksStrange (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I see. It's updated now, so it was just slow servers after all (took about ~5 hours for it to update). Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure if it was me or not. Dubesor (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

It's not just you for sure, I've had the same problem, and am reporting it again to the server people to see if there's a new problem causing this. I thought we had it fixed, but apparently not. Thanks for posting the messages, though! margotbean (talk) 17:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Can confirm that the problem is still occurring. Several weird things about it:

I can see the new version's thumbnail, but trying to view the full file shows the original version.
The image's page indicates I'm not logged in and has a message saying I can't overwrite it, even while I'm logged in on other pages.
The server definitely knows about the new version. In trying to fix the issue myself, I tried to upload the image again as an entirely new file under a different name, and it gave me an error about being a duplicate.

Bladeoflight16 (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

The problem with images not updating for several hours is one that I don't think we can fix. The server people tell me it's a problem of waiting for the job queue to get around to them. The problem with the images showing you as not logged in is affecting me and the server people as well. That's a problem they're looking into, as that shouldn't happen! margotbean (talk) 19:45, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Cargo Tables

I see that the cargo plugin is installed; It would be nice if some cargo templates/tables were created, as I'd like to make an API for Stardew information. Micalobia (talk) 19:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the extension is installed, but unfortunately we can't use it until we solve the problem of importing data into 11 other languages. margotbean (talk) 20:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

As in, have tables handle other languages, or just the wiki itself needs more fletched out languages? Micalobia (talk) 01:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Other languages cannot query cargo tables created on the English wiki, so creating cargo table here would break all the other wikis. margotbean (talk) 17:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding or being naive, but would it be possible to create a root table that holds language-neutral info about something, then create other tables that hold language-sensitive data, and prefix them with `de` for Germen, etc., using a language-neutral identifier for joining tables in queries? Also, if there's somewhere better like a Discord or otherwise to talk about this instead of the noticeboard, let me know, this was all I could find.Micalobia (talk) 08:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

It might be possible to create the kinds of tables you describe, but they would have to be manually copied to up to 11 other languages, for each page where they're used. The queries would have to be customized for each language, to call the correct prefix. And after all that, it would probably still be necessary to create a template to style the info queried from the table. margotbean (talk) 16:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Not impossible to do, I can definitely understand the hesitation though. If there's anything I can do to help work towards that kind of goal, I'm willing to help a lot with it, as there's not really a better idea to work around the languages that come to mind. Handling the separate languages on the query side of things wouldn't be hard to work around, especially with a wrapper that would take something as simple as a URL or header parameter to select a language. Micalobia (talk) 04:42, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure how languages work in MediaWiki exactly since I only work English game wikis, and this question/suggestion doesn't help at all with wanting an API, but would DynamicPageLlist3 extension ever be enabled on this wiki for the creation of automated data tables? We (another game wiki--standalone MW install) use it for pulling infobox template parameter values of pages in certain categories into dynamic data tables that we can then format via surrogate templates, perform parser functions on per line, etc to create sortable, self-updating data tables... so say, to compile a table of all farmed foods: their name, cost, sewing time, season, profit etc (whatever common parameter names and values are contained in their common templates for a given category can be pulled into a table, formatted, calculated/parsed with necessary icons etc and made sortable). There are many creative uses for DPL3, including random images, galleries, data tables etc. Perhaps then only the words used in the DPL statement to generate a table on a given page need changing. When I view an other language page, it looks like a separate and distinct page with separate and distinct categories, so it would seem like a DPL statement required to call a data table would be easily adapted to the different languages.

DPL3 is now maintained by a dev over at Miraheze wiki farm (they have a large user base so should be stable enough). It does not make or require database changes (no need to run update script via SSH) like Cargo does, and thus can be activated and deactivated easily without long-term consequence or maintenance burden, though it is more limited (and functional richness should intentionally be limited to 4, not 5 its full functional richness). It seems to work fine with special characters and other languages (I think), though there are some resource expensive functions that should be avoided, its ability to create self-updating, aggregated data tables from infobox parameter values is exceptionally nice if one can't do a full solution like Cargo. I have used DPL3 a fair bit, so am curious if this was considered in lieu of cargo. Or if they would consider installing it for examples/testing. If they were, I'd be happy to help out with examples on how to use it, since its documentation isn't ideal. Thanks CrystalFlower (talk) 08:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Not at this time, but I'll keep your offer in mind, thank you. margotbean (talk) 18:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming Margotbean, I thought this was probably the case but figured I'd ask anyhow, just in case. I can play with MW data displays off-site for this. Thanks for the reply. Cheers CrystalFlower (talk) 21:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Page on Time

I'd like to have / contribute to a more comprehensive page on how time behaves in SDV. With a focus on differences between single- and multiplayer.
Ideally it would also include somewhat detailed information on what actions are and aren't possible during /pause.

Day Cycle wouldn't be suitable, as it's very much a beginners' guide and the resource would only be useful if it included spoilers e.g. the Skull Caves, Festivals.

Basically I'm asking: where in this wiki (if at all) would be the place for this page? --Choccylatte (talk) 19:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

You could create a section called "Time" on the Multiplayer page, under "Features", that could include detailed info about /pause. Similarly, you could create a section on the Day Cycle page (called "Caveats"? "Exceptions"? ...your choice) that would summarize exceptions to the rules listed there. I think it would be best to modify the 2 existing pages rather than create a new page that would include duplicate info. The Day Cycle page doesn't have to remain an abbreviated beginner's guide at all, it can (and should) include all info about time and the day cycle in the game! margotbean (talk) 19:35, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good! I've added a section Multiplayer#Features##Time that could use a little polishing but (I hope) correctly summarized all the information I have. As it has been quite a while since when I last played singleplayer, I haven't touched Day Cycle yet. --Choccylatte (talk) 23:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

The Multiplayer page looks perfect, thank you on behalf of all stardew players! margotbean (talk) 00:37, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Can't edit a page

Hello. I am trying to add a table with a comparison of all crops to Crops page. I'm getting the following errors:

This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed.
If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Spam Keywords
This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed.
If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Mass edit by new user

I think that this happens because it's a big edit, and because the word "Price" is used many times.

Also, the error box is hidden by default and you need to inspect element to make it visible.

Kelenius (talk) 11:42, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the info about the errorbox, I can fix that today. As for the crops table, that info is on the seasonal pages already. margotbean (talk) 17:54, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Term inconsistency, common sense redirects, style guide

I've noticed in some places the term "farm maps" is used and in other places the term "farm layout" is used (which is more accurate, and is descriptive of what a user finds since the layouts are not maps). A redirect I created from "Farms" (to accommodate for the term choice I see as confusing) to Farm Maps was deleted. To my knowledge, there is only one actual map in the game and the wiki pages are usually based on proper game terms. The map tab in user settings has way-finding markings/labels on it--that to me is a map. I added the "Farms" redirect because as a new user, I'd never search "Farm Maps" for different farms or farm layouts. I tend to think it would be nice to help other new users with redirects for some common sense terms (the deletion of this redirect did not make good sense, its logic was sound). Does anyone go through the server logs regularly to determine which terms are most searched for (not including autocomplete partial results) that don't have pages and/or redirects, in order to help new users, and use this to create those redirects supported by some access log data? This would probably be very helpful and is fairly common. To be fair, it may be difficult for experienced wiki users already familiar with existing page titles, to be impartial as to what a new user would consider to be a helpful or needed redirect. In my opinion, that’s what fresh eyes can be good for sometimes. Perhaps you won't agree though, and that's fine. :)

Also, is there a style guide somewhere off-wiki? I notice that proper titles/terms for game items are sometimes capitalized and other times not, which does this wiki prefer? Even just a line about this on the guide page can add a very helpful thing for less experienced editors to pitch in on to help. Some wikis create a checklist of these consistency items that users find very helpful. Might be a nice addition?

CrystalFlower (talk) 22:58, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, now valid spoiler tags are being removed also, though the help editing page still says to add them (sorry but this is confusing for users attempting to help). Perhaps you could elaborate there on when and when not to add these, or remove that text if you no longer want content marked as spoiler? Maybe the 1.5 update for mobile might drop sooner than I think and perhaps this is the reason, if so that makes sense. The edit reversal comment said someone has to remove them all one day, as the reason for reversal. There is an easy way to determine and do that when the time comes by adding a parser function to the spoiler template that auto-categorizes (temporarily) any page that uses that template to its update number... then edit each page to remove them all (90% were already done before I came along, I'd have been happy to do it when the time comes, though seems like I may have outstayed my helpfulness here), then remove the parser function that auto-categorizes when done. Half pages spoilered and half not was very confusing for me as a new player. I think you guys are wanting less editing help than I thought, wanting to do most of it yourselves, understandable. Cheers.

Ah, you're only undoing the ones I did, okay, good enough. Please delete and or rename my user account and personal data in the database on this wiki, thank you. Here is a guide on how this is done, please pass on to server admins per data privacy: GDPR and Mediawiki.

CrystalFlower (talk) 04:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, CrystalFlower! I don't know why margotbean reversed all your edits. But there should be a much easier way to remove the template when the day comes: Special:Replacetext. This special page can only be used by admin. So the admin can remove the text "{{Spoiler}}" on all pages easily. You can see the sever admin User:Prod did that from his contributions. Thanks for your all of your work here. Best regards😊. Horizon98 (talk) 08:50, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I didn’t realize that extension was installed since so many other MW 1.5 bundled extensions here are not, nor are the ones that facilitate easier translation. I should have visited the Version page to double-check. FYI the Help:Editing guide still says to spoiler pages, after pointing this out it is still not removed in the guide, none of my posts were replied to, and others have recently and have not had theirs reversed, so I can only assume it is related to my person and/or my suggestions, which had solid logic and utility. There are other wikis and offline export that's easy to set up, thanks, you're welcome, and cheers! CrystalFlower (talk) 23:53, 4 July 2021 (UTC)