Talk:Crops
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Comparison table
Seasonal pages are for seasonal crops. This page can include a table with all crops. It's useful for the greenhouse, ginger island farm, or just an overview of all crops in the game. Kelenius (talk) 20:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The page is too large already, and the information is a duplicate of what's on the seasonal pages. Perhaps you would like to create the table in your user space, meaning create a page called something like "User:Kelenius/Crop_Comparison_Table" and place the table on that page. margotbean (talk) 21:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- What if there was a separate page, say "Crops/Comparison", and there was a link to it on the Crops page? Kelenius (talk) 19:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- It would still be duplicate info. margotbean (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Should all information about crops be removed from Crops page, then, since it's a duplicate of what's on the individual crop pages? Kelenius (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ideally, yes, it would be a shorter summary of individual crops that link to each individual crop's page. Unfortunately, it was created first, before the individual pages, and before I came to the wiki. It's now been copied into almost 11 other languages, so abbreviating it would mean hours, perhaps days, of work. margotbean (talk) 20:06, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Should all information about crops be removed from Crops page, then, since it's a duplicate of what's on the individual crop pages? Kelenius (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- It would still be duplicate info. margotbean (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- What if there was a separate page, say "Crops/Comparison", and there was a link to it on the Crops page? Kelenius (talk) 19:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
I know this is a ways after the discussion ended, but couldn't there be some sort of "under construction" page? FireJarkee (talk) 03:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know if it could answer your expectations, but there is this online Stardew utility called Stardew Profits which is convenient to have an overview on crops and make calculations about what one should buy in which circumstances. It is not referenced in the wiki as far as I know, it could be a good addition. -- Charly (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- I find this a very useful tip. I tried to add this link, but that was blocked. :(( Admins, please fix? --Odg (talk) 01:05, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
"Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Adding external links"- Added. margotbean (talk) 01:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- I find this a very useful tip. I tried to add this link, but that was blocked. :(( Admins, please fix? --Odg (talk) 01:05, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Calculations
I was making a spreadsheet of this in excel for personal use, and I am using math to determine the number of harvests. The formula is Harvests = Round.down((Available days-Initial grow days)/Regrow Days)+1 where Available days is maximum number of days that crop can be grown (ie. 2 seasons = 28*2 = 56 days). With this formula, gold per day comes out to be exact same for Corn as is provided here, however for some other crops (coffee/green bean) it seems the +1 at the end of this formula must be missing for the gold per day to match. I think my formula for number of harvests is correct, as you need to calculate how many regrows there are, and the +1 is there to account for the initial yield (before the regrowing starts). Is this a calculation error, or did I miss something? Slash0 (talk) 16:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- The formula was derived from this spreadsheet. I've updated it over the years, but the basic calculation method hasn't changed. I should probably upload the updated version to google docs sometime. margotbean (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems you are using basically the same thing I am using, but instead of +1 you just round the number up. This is correct, as long as the number is not a whole number. However, when it is a whole number, it does not have the same effect, as 6 will stay 6, instead of there being 7. This is the case of Green Beans. I drew it out into a table for each day, and you do get 7 harvests (not 6). This means that every regrowing crop that has its last harvest at the last day it is alive has wrong gold per day. This should be fixed. Please don't take this as an offense, I just want to help. Thanks.Slash0 (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- No offense taken! No worries. If you look at the Green Bean page, the Crop Growth Calendar shows 6 harvests per season. Perhaps the calculations on the page are correct after all... margotbean (talk) 17:23, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems I have misunderstood. It was my thinking that if I plant Green beans on 1st, harvest will be ready on 10th. This was my mistake. I also wrote a python code to check every possible combination of Initial grow days and Regrow Days up to 112 days (1 year), and it always works, so there should not be any unreleased crop that wont work. My apologies, I did not want to waste your time. Slash0 (talk) 18:32, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's no problem at all, I'm glad you figured it out. 👍 margotbean (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems I have misunderstood. It was my thinking that if I plant Green beans on 1st, harvest will be ready on 10th. This was my mistake. I also wrote a python code to check every possible combination of Initial grow days and Regrow Days up to 112 days (1 year), and it always works, so there should not be any unreleased crop that wont work. My apologies, I did not want to waste your time. Slash0 (talk) 18:32, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- No offense taken! No worries. If you look at the Green Bean page, the Crop Growth Calendar shows 6 harvests per season. Perhaps the calculations on the page are correct after all... margotbean (talk) 17:23, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems you are using basically the same thing I am using, but instead of +1 you just round the number up. This is correct, as long as the number is not a whole number. However, when it is a whole number, it does not have the same effect, as 6 will stay 6, instead of there being 7. This is the case of Green Beans. I drew it out into a table for each day, and you do get 7 harvests (not 6). This means that every regrowing crop that has its last harvest at the last day it is alive has wrong gold per day. This should be fixed. Please don't take this as an offense, I just want to help. Thanks.Slash0 (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)