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Hi. I'm now Giles. (I was Butterbur). I've been around here since 31 Dec 2016, at 17:31 (UTC). If you read stuff on this page, may it prove useful, entertaining, or enjoyable for you. Might I suggest the notes on naming your horse as the likeliest to succeed? But my primary purpose is for my own use and record, so may you not be disappointed. 03:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Take Your Pick (Mining Output)

The following collapsible tables provide information about gathering items with the Pickaxe, starting from the sources of these items rather than the items themselves. Each table focuses on one category of sources. Each source is identified by its appearance (icons) and the locations in which it may be found. The performance of the various grades of Pickaxe is given as a count of the strokes it takes to break up a source into items. Performance can vary by source type, source location, and Pickaxe grade.

The yields from breaking up an object can vary, sometimes randomly, and sometimes influenced by mining skill or profession. Some yields are a guaranteed minimum; others are not. One source object sometimes yields multiple items, or even multiple types of items. These quantities are impossible to quantify with accuracy, and statistical probabilities require examination of the random generators in the game code. I find those analyses to be minimally useful in game play, at best. I think it is better to understand which game aspects exert influence on the average outcomes, and which source objects tend to provide the superior yields (if any). This information is summarized in the introductions to each table, for its category of sources. 18:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Rocks 
Location Category Icons Pickaxe.png Copper Pickaxe.png Steel Pickaxe.png Gold Pickaxe.png Iridium Pickaxe.png
Farm, Town Ordinary Stone Index343.pngStone Index450.png 1 1 1 1 1
Mine Dark Gray Stone Index668.png Stone Index670.png 2 1 1 1 1
Mine, levels 1~39 Ordinary Stone Index32.pngStone Index38.pngStone Index34.pngStone Index36.png 1 1 1 1 1
Mine, levels 41~79 Ordinary Stone Index48.pngStone Index54.pngStone Index50.pngStone Index52.png 3 2 1 1 1
Mine, levels 81~119 Ordinary Stone Index56.pngStone Index58.pngStone Index760.pngStone Index762.png 4 2 2 1 1
Skull Cavern Ordinary Stone Index40.pngStone Index42.png 5 3 2 2 1
Quarry Ordinary Stone Index38.pngStone Index42.png 2 1 1 1 1
Nodes 
Location Category Icons Pickaxe.png Copper Pickaxe.png Steel Pickaxe.png Gold Pickaxe.png Iridium Pickaxe.png
Mine, SC, Quarry Copper Ore Copper Node.png 3 2 1 1 1
Mine, Skull Cavern

Quarry

Iron Ore Iron Node.png 4

5

2

3

2 1

2

1
Mine, SC, Quarry Gold Ore Gold Node.png 8 4 3 2 2
Skull Cavern Iridium Ore Iridium Node.png 16 8 6 4 4
Quarry Mystic Stone Mystic Stone.png 12 6 4 3 3
Mine, Skull Cavern Mystic Stone Mystic Stone.png Varies Varies Varies Varies Varies
Mine, Skull Cavern Gems Diamond Node.png 10 5 4 3 2
Quarry Gems Diamond Node.png 5 3 2 2 1
Mine, SC, Quarry Gems Amethyst Node.png Aquamarine Node.pngEmerald Node.png

Jade Node.pngRuby Node.pngTopaz Node.png

5 3 2 2 1
Mine (others?) Gem Node Gem Node.png 1 1 1 1 1
Hill-top Farm Geode Node Geode Node.png 3 2 1 1 1
Hill-top Farm Frozen Geode Node Frozen Geode Node.png 5 3 2 1 1
Hill-top Farm Magma Geode Node Magma Geode Node.png 7 4 3 2 2
Massifs 
Location Category Icons Pickaxe.png Copper Pickaxe.png Steel Pickaxe.png Gold Pickaxe.png Iridium Pickaxe.png
Farm Boulder Farm Boulder.png N/A N/A 5 4 3
Farm Meteorite Meteorite.png N/A N/A N/A 7 6
Mine,

Skull Cavern

Boulder Mine Boulder 1.pngMine Boulder 4.png 8 6 4 3 3
Mine Dwarf Barrier none N/A N/A 5 5 5
Original Table 
This "original" table was lifted from a rejected edit of the article on Pickaxes. I used it to seed my tables, but I suspect it contained a few errors, some of which likely found their way into mine. From the start I have been correcting or editing as I see the opportunity, a process I will continue over time. 18:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Rock Type Pickaxe.png Copper Pickaxe.png Steel Pickaxe.png Gold Pickaxe.png Iridium Pickaxe.png Notes
Stone Index343.pngStone Index450.png 1 1 1 1 1 Rocks outside the Mine.
Stone Index32.pngStone Index38.pngStone Index34.pngStone Index36.png 1 1 1 1 1 Rocks in the Mine level 1~40.
Stone Index48.pngStone Index54.pngStone Index50.pngStone Index52.png 3 2 1 1 1 Rocks in the Mine level 41~80.
Stone Index56.pngStone Index58.pngStone Index760.pngStone Index762.png 4 2 2 1 1 Rocks in the Mine level 81~120.
Stone Index40.pngStone Index42.png 5 3 2 2 1 Rocks in the Skull Cavern.
Stone Index38.pngStone Index42.png 2 1 1 1 1 Rocks in the Quarry.
Stone Index668.png Stone Index670.png 3 2 1 1 1 When not in the Hill-top Farm.
Stone Index668.png Stone Index670.png 2 1 1 1 1 When in the Hill-top Farm.
Amethyst Node.png Aquamarine Node.pngEmerald Node.png

Jade Node.pngRuby Node.pngTopaz Node.png

5 3 2 2 1
Diamond Node.png 5 3 2 2 1 When in the Quarry.
Diamond Node.png 10 5 4 3 2 When in the Mine or Skull Cavern.
Gem Node.png Varies Varies Varies Varies Varies Normally the same as the other rocks at the same location, but also could be

the same as a Diamond Node or any other gem node like Ruby Node in the Mine.

Mystic Stone.png Varies Varies Varies Varies Varies When in the Mine or Skull Cavern, the same as Gem Node above.
Mystic Stone.png 12 6 4 3 3 When in the Quarry.
Copper Node.png 3 2 1 1 1
Iron Node.png 4 2 2 1 1 When not in the Quarry.
Iron Node.png 5 3 2 2 1 When in the Quarry.
Gold Node.png 8 4 3 2 2
Iridium Node.png 16 8 6 4 4
Geode Node.png 3 2 1 1 1 On the Hill-top Farm.
Frozen Geode Node.png 5 3 2 1 1 On the Hill-top Farm.
Magma Geode Node.png 7 4 3 2 2 On the Hill-top Farm.
Mine Boulder 1.pngMine Boulder 4.png 8 6 4 3 3 Any Boulder in the Mine or Skull Cavern.
Farm Boulder.png N/A N/A 5 4 3 Boulders in the Farm.
Meteorite.png N/A N/A N/A 7 6
The rock blocking the path to Dwarf N/A N/A 5 5 5

Notes

An Irritating Bug in v1.3 and later 
Along the passageway from the farm to Cindersap Forest, the two southern-most tiles have locations <X>40</X><Y>64</Y> and <X>41</X><Y>64</Y>. I like to pave a pathway there in cobblestones, but the bug prevents me from placing a flooring on the west tile, and the east tile is problematic also.

So, I first pave the tiles just to their north (Y=63), save the day, and make a backup copy of the game files. Now you can edit the original (if you dare! this is not for the uninitiated!). Use a bare application that records no formatting information. (In Windows, use Notepad.) Formatting metadata would make the file unloadable, for the game does not expect it.

Now, open the game file with the nine-digits in its name and search for tile 41,63 (string <X>41</X><Y>63</Y>). The location is embedded within an item construct (<item> ... </item>). Select and copy the entire item to another text file, then copy it again (make a second copy). In the copy, change the location ids to the unpavable locations. Then select and copy the altered text (into the Windows buffer). Go back to the game file and place the cursor immediately after the item for location 41,63, then paste the altered text there. Save the edited game file. Now load the game again and travel to the Cindersap Forest entry point. It should be paved just like the tiles to the north.

CAUTION: If you search for tile 40,64 before editing, you will find a "Large Terrain Feature" there, a Bush of size 2. That tile is not on the farm, but on one of the other game maps. Coordinates are unique only within each map. So don't try to alter that one. Search the file from its beginning. The farm map comes first. Farm tiles that have nothing on them are not listed, and hence are not found when searched for. Farm tile 40,64 is not found, which is why the other one is. Searching for tile 41,64 should give a "not found"-type reply, for that is apparently empty on all maps. However, I have chosen the standard farm map for this example, and perhaps other choices could give you different results. 21:51, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

The bug still exists in game version 1.4, though some behavior has morphed a bit, I believe. The bottom line is that you still can't place pathing on the southern-most tiles of the farm. 16:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)