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Deletion of discussion archives

Hi! You deleted Stardew Valley Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Archives/2021-02 with a note that it's unneeded. The old wiki is temporary, so discussions that aren't archived to the new wiki will eventually be lost forever. What's the issue with archiving important discussion pages to avoid that? —Pathoschild (talk) 03:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I was under the impression that the old wiki was not temporary. If it's going away, then that changes things. Let me confirm with the Admin what's going to happen with the old wiki. margotbean (talk) 03:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I was told by Katzeus it "will be up for a while", so I think there will be plenty of time to archive stuff (people could even use archive.org to permanently save the old wiki), but it does sound like it's going to go down eventually. Hopefully there will be a heads up if/when that happens. I will personally make use of the admin noticeboard archive if a copy is kept on this site though. - Odin (talk) 01:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello

I was looking through the history on the stone owl page (Event) and saw that one of the changes was you saying it's an owl and not a parrot? StatueOfPerfection (talk) 19:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Salmonberries

Is there any particular reason you reverted the edits that adds salmonberries as a like for any NPC who likes it? --Rayram (talk) 07:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind. I completely missed the "All fruit" tags.--Rayram (talk) 07:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Salmonberries are one of those deceptive foraged items that actually count as another category of items. Glad you saw the comments on the other edits. Cheers! margotbean (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Margotbean. Issue is "Hotbar" and pressing Tab to cycle inventory rows

Pressing tab to cycle through rows of inventory isn't mentioned in any wiki pages (or atleast I didn't come across anything like that). And most of the information about "hotbar" feature is now deprecated. I just created my account and started translating the Turkish pages, I want to help. I will try to correct it but I need to hear your idea on the subject. --Sev21 (talk) 15:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Sev21! On the English wiki, that info. is on the Controls page (for PC), where the "Tab" key says "Shift toolbar", and at the bottom of the Inventory page, the very last line, under "Tips". You could elaborate a bit about what "shift toolbar" means (on the English wiki), and please feel free to update the Turkish pages. You'll probably find that several (if not all) of the Turkish pages are out of date, since they were copied from English before version 1.5 (or before version 1.4 in some cases). Go ahead and update, have at it! And have fun! Welcome to the wiki! margotbean (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Technical wiki improvements

You mentioned some "more pressing bugs" in this post. Are there some template issues floating around? Or something else? RetroEdit (talk) 13:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Something else. There are a couple of template issues, but they're not impacting the user experience, so they're not #1 priority. Why do you ask? Do you have an idea of how to fix the "wanted page" error for "River" for the fish infoboxes? margotbean (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Yep, I investigated the "River" issue the other day. This explains the issue and potential solutions. RetroEdit (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up: I fixed the River issue. I'm looking into some of the SEO issues next, like the one for Template:Infobox fish, but those seems more complicated. I do have some general ideas for making them easier to detect and resolve. RetroEdit (talk) 13:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest, but we will be fixing those asap, while keeping all 12 languages consistent. margotbean (talk) 21:01, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm not clear on how edits could be synced between different language versions: do 12 separate edits have to be made for each change to a template? That seems kind of annoying if that has to be done manually.

I understand the page move issue (though I would note the redirects would still preserve the interwiki links in both directions). RetroEdit (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, everything has to be synched manually, 12 edits for each template change. This is the reason we want to use talk pages before making changes. margotbean (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Typos in item description that cannot be edited and talk pages missing

Hello! I was trying to help a bit in some minor ways on the wiki and noticed two things: 1.) the contents of the talk pages from the old wiki seem to not have been copied/transferred. example I checked crab pots and luck pages on the old wiki and there are talk pages, on the new one there are none: which is unfortunate because I feel like the old talk pages hold valuable information. Second: I noticed spelling errors that seem not to be editable: Artifacts:Ornamental Fan: This exquisute fan (misspelled exquisite) and Artifacts:Golden Relic: with heiroglyphs and (misspelled hieroglyphs). Dubesor (talk) 05:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just an ordinary editor, but I can answer your second question. Those descriptions are misspelled on purpose in order to accurately reflect the way they're spelled in the game. I have an old save file with those items in a chest, and I just verified that those (mis-)spellings are still accurate. I don't know about the talk pages, and I don't want to start a rumor by speculating. Zendowolf (talk) 08:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, you're right, they are misspelled ingame too. Found a third one: Jasper:When polished, this stone becomes attactively luminous. (misspelled attractively). Dubesor (talk) 09:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Dubesor! The way to handle in-game misspellings is to place a note on the page that explains that the misspelling appears in-game, as on the Beet page.

If you find relevant info on talk pages, it can be copied to the new wiki. But, be sure it's current and relevant to the 1.5 game code, and isn't reflected on the actual page for the item already. There's lots of interesting discussion, but it's outdated and not necessary to migrate it. So, you have to be careful about what's considered "valuable information". I'm sure there are some bits that are valuable (like unanswered questions that still need to be researched), so choose wisely. ;) Welcome to the wiki! margotbean (talk) 09:12, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

OK! Done as with the beets, however Jasper description (attactively/attractively) is only misspelled on the wiki, and spelt correctly in-game. How does one change the description? Dubesor (talk) 10:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I just want to mention that if you're interested in reporting typos in the game, you can do so here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/threads/3314/ - Odin (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

^Good advice, thanks Odin! The place to change typos in descriptions on the wiki is Template:Description. (Use Crtl+F to find the entry for Jasper, there's a LOT of text in there). Good luck, and let me know if you encounter problems. margotbean (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Non-English edits

Hey margotbean! I recently reverted some edits by a user who was making Turkish edits on the English wiki. What's the best way to refer someone to one of the other language wikis? Just post the URL on their talk page? I wasn't sure if there was a better/more native way for me to link them there since I'm not familiar with the other wikis. Here's the user/edits in question: Special:Contributions/Ravenswordd Thank you! Efarn (talk) 02:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

There's been no activity on the Turkish wiki, nothing in the spam filters, so I would say there's not much more to do. The links to the Turkish wiki are fairly prominent already. If someeone asks for help, then we can provide it, of course. margotbean (talk) 17:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Lost password and can't reset

Just to check (if this is even the right place for it): this is Polk, I can't seem to access my main username here and the password reset emails haven't helped. (I have checked my spam folder, and I have given it a day or so and tried again.) Is there anything else that could be done for me to get ahold of that old username, or is where I am now the closest bet? Polka (talk) 05:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Just to be clear, you've forgotten your old password? You're unable to login to the old wiki? If so, the other Admin can probably recover your password, they will look into it. Give it a day or so, and message back if you haven't received an email. Thanks for being patient! margotbean (talk) 17:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I have now realized that the stardewcommunitywiki still exists, and I'm still logged in there! Is there a way to have my same username here that I did in the old wiki? When I tried to recreate it I was declined, and this website won't accept the password settings I have for the old one. (If this has already been hashed out somewhere please let me know, I hadn't been able to find it.) Polka (talk) 23:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If you have a previous wiki account, it's been transferred here with the same username and password and you'll just need to sign in here. Creating an account won't work because it's been "reserved" already for you. Is it possible you used a different password than you are remembering? - Odin (talk) 02:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

The main problem is the forgotten password. The old database is locked, and there's no way to access it directly. The key to unlock it would be your password, which would prove you are indeed Polk. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to see your old password on the old site. It's not stored in cookies in human-readable format. Without the password, anyone could claim to be "Polk" and request a new password, which would not be good.

Despite all that, the other Admin is checking their emails, and will see if anything can be done. We will try! margotbean (talk) 02:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

... So, after starting this thread and everything, I discovered that somewhere along the line my saved passwords got switched around (for reasons I can't explain), and it was buried a few layers deep where I couldn't see. I think I've resolved it now! Sorry I didn't catch this earlier, and thank you guys very much for looking into this. Polk (talk) 15:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Very glad you got it sorted out! margotbean (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

You banned me

On my other acc when I changed Abigails one,my brother did it not me x Twinklegaming (talk) 06:06, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I broke Sebastian

I was editing on Sebastian’s wiki and I broke it XD Twinklegaming (talk) 06:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)