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I know this is a ways after the discussion ended, but couldn't there be some sort of "under construction" page? [[User:FireJarkee|FireJarkee]] ([[User talk:FireJarkee|talk]]) 03:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

:I don't know if it could answer your expectations, but there is this online Stardew utility called [https://thorinair.github.io/Stardew-Profits/ Stardew Profits] which is convenient to have an overview on crops and make calculations about what one should buy in which circumstances. It is not referenced in the wiki as far as I know, it could be a good addition. -- [[User:Charly|Charly]] ([[User talk:Charly|talk]]) 20:21, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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:::Added. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 01:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

::::👍 --[[User:Odg|Odg]] ([[User talk:Odg|talk]]) 22:21, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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:::::I think you should add crops that are in multiple seasons to all the seasons they can be grown. ([[User:StarDrop|StarDrop]] ([[User talk:StarDrop|talk]]) 16:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC))

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::::::Your issue was already addressed in the discussion above. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 18:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

==Calculations==

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This is the spreadsheet I used, [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zNaPQp-6GwIzm2ucuIkphNpSdECw3cI/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114495551717477095381&rtpof=true&sd=true spreadsheet]. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 09:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

All crops have been added XP per day except for special crops since in the margotbean's spreadsheet there are no calculation, this will probably added later if I have spare time. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 09:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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:Hello Xyrsis! Thanks for your message regarding these edits. Unfortunately there are a couple of problems. The edits duplicate info that's on the [[Farming]] page under "Experience Points", and I think any calculations would be better placed there. But, I also question the validity of the information itself. Garlic shows a higher XP/day than Cauliflower, but it isn't available during year 1. So, how would a user decide what the next best option would be? It would depend on available gold and farming space, as well as a bunch of other factors. You could argue the same for gold per day, and I would agree with you. Unfortunately, those calculations date back to the beginning of the wiki, and removing them after 7 years would constitute a considerable change in content.

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:The spreadsheet itself is not mine; I have yet to upload an updated one. It's on my "to do" list somewhere, but since the calculations are explained on the page, it can be reproduced by anyone who has the desire to do so.

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:So, I'm going to revert the edits, and people can discuss the value of comparing XP per day for crops, for potential inclusion in [[Farming#Experience Points]]. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but everyone: discuss! Thanks, [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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::First problem. Edit question on duplicate with farming page. We can make it there with similar table like crops, but it would be much more duplicate since you need to redetermine maximum harvest, growing days, etc. I can do it in farming page under farming experience section if you think it needs to be there. Another more reasonable options would be to delete that section from farming page and refer it back to crops page in XP per day section. XP calculation is also not only used in Farming, but also Foraging. This would make another duplicate, you need to make Foraging XP Section.

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::Second problem, I used your spreadsheet and I assume good faith on your spreadsheet about the numbers and I can reproduce it if needs to be. What you said about garlic vs cauliflower is what makes this XP per day important in itself. Consider your question, I'm a first year farmer so there is no Red Cabbage or Starfruit or Strawberry, my goal it to maximize my farming level up, what would I chose? I look at available crop seed at the time and compare its XP per day, so garlic is therefore eliminated since I dont have the seed, the best next thing of XP per day is for example is cauliflower. I chose the cauliflower.

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:: Another more clear example. It is based on my recent experience. I want to get my farming to level 6. It is already in 18 Summer 1st Year. I cannot grow melon or any other regrow or long days crops since it would be wasting gold, energy and XP. What is the most suitable crops to plant for me to achieve my goal? I have Poppy, Radish, Red Cabbage, Summer Sprangle, Sunflower and Wheat as options. I cross out Red Cabbage since it is not available for me. The best XP per day is Poppy, but it is actually the worst Gold per Day since the seed price is expensive (100G) compared to sell price (140G), but it would served my goal well since XP does not consider seed price, only base sell price. If I want to make middle ground, then I would choose Radish as the second best XP per day but with considerably more Gold per Day. This would greatly help decision making. I chose poppy since I have enough money but not enough energy to water my farm.

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:: I agree with your comment on other factor such as available gold, farming space, etc. This is why it's important as decision making tool, to compare available crops with each other based on these factor. You can also compare XP more cleanly than counting gold since XP is based on the base price and only first product of the harvest, irrelevant of crops quality, fertilizer, etc. It is therefore not subject to huge controversy with the like of most profitable gold producing crops which correlates to probability or farm layout due to Giant Crops.

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:: All in all, I would like to make it possible since there is no XP per day calculation before. Your input would be welcome. Thanks and Happy Farming! [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 22:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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:: I think I'm gonna try including it in farming section first to see if there's nothing wrong in that. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 22:48, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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== 1.6 crops to add ==

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Hi, I'm new and don't know how to format things correctly, so I'll just drop the crops I've seen in 1.6 so far:

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* Spring: Carrots; takes 3 days to grow. Vegetable.

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* Fall: Broccoli; takes 8 days to mature, is multi-harvest. Vegetable.

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* Winter: Powdermelon; takes 7 days to grow. Fruit.

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They have unique seed sprites, these brown sacks instead of the nice packets from Pierre's, and Pierre doesn't sell them. The only way I've found of getting them is hoeing the green 'worms'. --[[User:Lielac|Lielac]] ([[User talk:Lielac|talk]]) 13:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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