Talk:Green Rain Trees

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For now, we should use this talk page as a place to store test information. No one really know what varieties of "Green Rain Trees" there are, how and where they appear, what they yield when tapped, and more.

Unification

  • Mossy Seeds
    • These can be obtained outside of green rain events but seem to have a higher drop rate during Green Rain events
  • "Green Rain Trees" vs. "Mossy Trees" Clarification: "Green Rain Trees" is the category that contains all three of the trees that can grow from Mossy Seeds and the trees that appear during the Green Rain weather event. Wild Tree will be renamed to "Mossy Tree" because it has been found that Wild Trees encompasses all naturally grown trees. Brandon Echols (talk) 03:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
    • Since Mossy Seeds can be obtained outside of Green Rain events, "Mossy Tree" makes more sense than "Green Rain Tree" Clarification: This is not happening anymore because of the aforementioned. Brandon Echols (talk) 03:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
    • "Mossy Tree" and "Lush Mossy Tree", along with "Fiddlehead Stalk" seem like good names for the 3 "tree" variants that Mossy Seeds produce. Clarification: Fiddlehead Stalk will keep its name, while the other two will become Mossy Tree and Lush Mossy Tree. Brandon Echols (talk) 03:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  • On "Wild Trees"
    • Tree Fertilizer's description mentions "wild trees", and works on trees except fruit trees.
    • Mushroom Log's output is boosted by nearby Oak / Maple / Pine trees, supporting that these trees are considered "Wild Trees."
    • It makes less sense, then, to refer to "Mossy Trees" as "Wild Trees" because "Wild Tree" could also refer to Oak / Maple etc.

--Darkstreamfarm (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Facts

  • The group of trees that appear during the Green Rain event will be referred to as "Mossy Trees," as they can also be grown via Mossy Seeds.
  • There are three varieties of Mossy Trees, per the game files. This does **not** include normal trees covered in moss.
    • The "stalks" that yield Fiddlehead Ferns when chopped down.
    • Wild Tree 1
    • Wild Tree 2
  • "Mossy Trees" include both the trees that appear during the Green Rain event, as well as the trees grown from the Mossy Seed.
  • The Mossy Seed can grow any version of these 3 trees, regardless of source. It is determined upon planting. The seeds do look different when planted based on what will grow
  • The Fiddlehead Stalk can be tapped for Fiddlehead Ferns, but the other two versions cannot be tapped.
  • The Fiddlehead Stalk cannot spread seeds, but the Wild Trees can.
  • All of the sprites are located under the names of "Tree(1,2, or 3)_greenrain.xnb" The sprites include each growth stage and the seed appearance when planted.
  • The Wild Trees lose their leaves in the Fall


Changes That Will Be Made

  • We will move the contents of the Green Rain Trees page to a new Mossy Trees page. The page will include an explanation of general tree spawning, along with a table that lists all three varieties of Green Rain Trees and any important attributes (like what they yield when tapped, for example).
  • We will create three separate pages that correspond to the three varieties of trees.

To Do

  • Is the Fiddlehead Stalk considered a "wild tree?" i.e. for the mushroom log effect
  • The pages can soon be created; I'll take upon myself that responsibility and do it as soon as I can. Afterwards, we can continue adding information and testing things. Brandon Echols (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
    • How will the 2 different Wild Tree variations be distinguished from each other? Idk if we can call them Wild Tree 1 and Wild Tree 2 for very long Tmh
      • I figure we can start by calling them this, and move them to pages with better titles in the future. OR, if we can find a distinguishing element about them we can just start by giving them names. Isn't one taller than the other? We can use Wild Tree and Tall Wild Tree (or vice versa). Thoughts? Brandon Echols (talk) 19:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
      • Actually, it seems that one has more leaves than the other; they're both the same height. What could we call them? Maybe Wild Tree and Lush Wild Tree? Brandon Echols (talk) 19:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
        • One of them also have a kinda curvy branch. Maybe Curved(or something) and Lush?
          • Something like that could work, although I think it would need to be something other than curved, for which there's not really many adjectives that could work. We could always just do Lush Wild Tree and Wild Tree. In addition, we could replace Wild Tree with Sparse Wild Tree, which could be good. Brandon Echols (talk) 19:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
            • For now, I'm just going to create the pages with "Wild Tree" and "Lush Wild Tree" and we can always move pages later if necessary.
              • I recommend coordinating with User:Margotbean since they kinda have it out for any of the Mossy Tree pages.
                • Thanks, I'll consult with him. Additionally, I feel like the general term "Mossy Trees" is better than "Green Rain Trees," as you can also grow these trees from Mossy Seeds; not just from the event. Brandon Echols (talk) 00:06, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
                  • This also makes sense because the respective seeds are called "Mossy Seeds," and each variation will have its own page. I'll make sure to add a note at the top of the page that will minimize confusion with trees covered in moss. Brandon Echols (talk) 00:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
                    • I'm just now realizing that the term "Mossy Tree" was removed and replaced with Green Rain Trees, but I personally believe that it should be reverted. I feel like that is what it should logically be called, and "Green Rain Trees" seems sort of weird, considering that they come from other sources besides that event. We can just put one of those notes at the top of the pages that says "Not to be confused with trees covered in moss."

Notes

The above was written by Brandon Echols (talk) 06:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC).

Information gathered by both I and User:Mishmishmish when the Mossy Tree wiki page existed

(Moved to the above categories)

Thank you for what has been gathered! Brandon Echols (talk) 18:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)