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Hello [[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]], since v1.6 is now out, I feel like the Wiki needs a clean-up, and that is that the Wiki pages use capital letters for the links, they need to be lowercased to match paragraphs in proper English, unless if it's the start of a paragraph, proper nouns, bold text at the start of a page, or the name of a [[Villagers|villager]]. This will improve the language of the Wiki and make it easier to read. Please work on this Pathoschild, thank you. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 10:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello [[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]], since v1.6 is now out, I feel like the Wiki needs a clean-up, and that is that the Wiki pages use capital letters for the links, they need to be lowercased to match paragraphs in proper English, unless if it's the start of a paragraph, proper nouns, bold text at the start of a page, or the name of a [[Villagers|villager]]. This will improve the language of the Wiki and make it easier to read. Please work on this Pathoschild, thank you. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 10:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

::Hi! I wouldn't mind a discussion about capitalization, but we shouldn't make large-scale changes like that without reaching a consensus first. I mainly work on modding and technical pages though, so margotbean would be the main person to discuss general content style with. —<small>[[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]] ([[User talk:Pathoschild|talk]]) 23:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</small>

: 9000, I've asked you before to stop nit-picking capitalization in a language that is not your first language. Please stop pestering other folks. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 20:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

:::Hello [[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]], [[User:Margotbean|Margotbean]] is saying that English is not my first language and says that my edits do not improve the Wiki, especially when '''changing links'''. English only uses capital letters at the start of paragraphs or proper nouns, you changed the [[Version History]] page in lowercasing links, but Margotbean didn't care about you doing it, she cares about us doing it. The Wiki is the exact opposite for the most part, it really needs to be '''matching''' paragraphs in proper English, she doesn't care about '''adding''' links, but when '''changing''' them. Also in her [[User:Margotbean|user page]], it reads ''If you need to contact me about Wiki issues, feel free to post.'' When you do that, she doesn't give a response about what you wrote to her at all. Margotbean hates me now. Please reply to her [[User talk:Margotbean|talk page]] about all of this, thank you so much. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 05:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

: Hi! I wouldn't mind a discussion about capitalization, but we shouldn't make large-scale changes like that without reaching a consensus first. I mainly work on modding and technical pages though, so margotbean would be the main person to discuss general content style with. —<small>[[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]] ([[User talk:Pathoschild|talk]]) 23:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</small>

::::I prefer lowercase too, but I don't think it's as straightforward as you suggest. An argument can be made both for treating page names as regular text (like [[Version History|version history]]) or as page titles (like [[Version History]]). There's also precedent in wiki tradition, since the earliest wikis used [[Version History|VersionHistory]] (one word with capitals) to indicate page links.

:: Hello [[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]], [[User:Margotbean|Margotbean]] is saying that English is not my first language and says that my edits do not improve the Wiki, especially when '''changing links'''. English only uses capital letters at the start of paragraphs or proper nouns, you changed the [[Version History]] page in lowercasing links, but Margotbean didn't care about you doing it, she cares about us doing it. The Wiki is the exact opposite for the most part, it really needs to be '''matching''' paragraphs in proper English, she doesn't care about '''adding''' links, but when '''changing''' them. Also in her [[User:Margotbean|user page]], it reads ''If you need to contact me about Wiki issues, feel free to post.'' When you do that, she doesn't give a response about what you wrote to her at all. Margotbean hates me now. Please reply to her [[User talk:Margotbean|talk page]] about all of this, thank you so much. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 05:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

::::I also don't think it's a question of favouritism, since Margotbean and I have definitely argued and disagreed before. There's a distinction between the content articles (which use capitalized links) and technical documentation pages (which use lowercase links). The two sections of the wiki have somewhat different audiences and style conventions (e.g. technical documentation tends to prefer named links over naked links), and [[Version History]] (or [[Version History|version history]]?) falls somewhere between the two so it can go either way.

::: I prefer lowercase too, but I don't think it's as straightforward as you suggest. An argument can be made both for treating page names as regular text (like [[Version History|version history]]) or as page titles (like [[Version History]]). There's also precedent in wiki tradition, since the earliest wikis used [[Version History|VersionHistory]] (one word with capitals) to indicate page links.

::::So I'm fine discussing the capitalization conventions, but we shouldn't just change the convention used by each section without agreeing on the changes first. —<small>[[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]] ([[User talk:Pathoschild|talk]]) 06:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</small>

::: I also don't think it's a question of favouritism, since Margotbean and I have definitely argued and disagreed before. There's a distinction between the content articles (which use capitalized links) and technical documentation pages (which use lowercase links). The two sections of the wiki have somewhat different audiences and style conventions (e.g. technical documentation tends to prefer named links over naked links), and [[Version History]] (or [[Version History|version history]]?) falls somewhere between the two so it can go either way.

:::::I agree with these changes, but another thing while we're at it, the Wiki uses a '''lot''' of errors in links, which need to be fixed, for example: <code><nowiki>the [[The Mines|Mines]]</nowiki></code> looks like gibberish to me, so I change it to the following coding: <code><nowiki>[[the Mines]]</nowiki></code>. The capitalization of links shouldn't just be all capitals, as it makes it bad for reading, for example: <code><nowiki>[[Cave Carrot]]s</nowiki></code> should look like the following: <code><nowiki>[[Cave Carrot|cave carrots]]</nowiki></code>. This doesn't affect the targeted page or create a redlink, but titles it to lowercase letters instead of capital letters. Hopefully this will be changed to match proper English. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 06:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

::: So I'm fine discussing the capitalization conventions, but we shouldn't just change the convention used by each section without agreeing on the changes first. —<small>[[User:Pathoschild|Pathoschild]] ([[User talk:Pathoschild|talk]]) 06:12, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</small>

 

:::: I agree with these changes, but another thing while we're at it, the Wiki uses a '''lot''' of errors in links, which need to be fixed, for example: <code><nowiki>the [[The Mines|Mines]]</nowiki></code> looks like gibberish to me, so I change it to the following coding: <code><nowiki>[[the Mines]]</nowiki></code>. The capitalization of links shouldn't just be all capitals, as it makes it bad for reading, for example: <code><nowiki>[[Cave Carrot]]s</nowiki></code> should look like the following: <code><nowiki>[[Cave Carrot|cave carrots]]</nowiki></code>. This doesn't affect the targeted page or create a redlink, but titles it to lowercase letters instead of capital letters. Hopefully this will be changed to match proper English. [[User:9000|9000]] ([[User talk:9000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/9000|contributions]]) 06:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)