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Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 
Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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Missing xp/d values updated. Please check. [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 00:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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:So, this is the start of a discussion about the value of XP per day. Let's leave the discussion open ''before'' making the edits, please!
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:Below is a mockup of the proposed section:
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<blockquote>
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<div style="font-size: larger; font-weight: bold;">XP per Day</div>
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Due to seed price, there is a slight calculation differences between the most profitable crops (Gold per day) and most XP yielding crops (XP per day). High quality crops grant the same amount of XP as normal-quality crops.
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The general formula is:
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<code>Minimum XP per Day = (Max Harvests &times; XP per Harvest) / Growing Days </code>
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'''Growing Days''' = <code>Days to Maturity + ((Max Harvests &minus; 1) &times; Days to Regrow)</code>
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'''Days to Maturity''' and '''Days to Regrow''' are listed in each table.
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'''Max Harvests''' is normally 1, but for crops that continue to produce, it is the actual number of harvests that can be obtained in the growing season(s).
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{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left; margin-right: 18px;"
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|-
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!colspan="3"|Spring
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|-
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! Crop
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! XP
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! XP/d
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|-
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|{{name|Coffee Bean}}
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| 4
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| 1.32 <sup>1</sup><br /> 1.63 <sup>2</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Tulip}}
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| 7
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| 1.15
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|-
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|{{name|Unmilled Rice}}
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| 7
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| 0.86 <sup>3</sup><br /> 1.15 <sup>4</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Parsnip}}
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| 8
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| 1.95
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|-
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|{{name|Green Bean}}
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| 9
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| 2.08
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|-
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|{{name|Blue Jazz}}
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| 10
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| 1.47
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|-
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|{{name|Garlic}}
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| 12
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| 2.93
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|-
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|{{name|Potato}}
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| 14
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| 2.38
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|-
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|{{name|Kale}}
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| 17
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| 2.91
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|-
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|{{name|Strawberry}}
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| 18
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| 3.84 <sup>5</sup><br /> 3.07 <sup>6</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Cauliflower}}
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| 23
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| 1.98
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|-
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|{{name|Rhubarb}}
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| 26
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| 1.97
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|-
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|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
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| 38
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| 3.97*
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|-
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|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
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| 14
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| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
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|}
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{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left; margin-right: 18px;"
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|-
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!colspan="3"|Summer
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|-
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! Crop
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! XP
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! XP/d
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|-
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|{{name|Coffee Bean}}
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| 4
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| 1.32 <sup>1</sup><br /> 1.63 <sup>2</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Hops}}
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| 6
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| 3.74
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|-
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|{{name|Wheat}}
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| 6
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| 1.49
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|-
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|{{name|Hot Pepper}}
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| 9
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| 2.67
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|-
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|{{name|Blueberry}}
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| 10
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| 2.28
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|-
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|{{name|Corn}}
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| 10
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| 1.58 <sup>1</sup><br /> 2.09 <sup>2</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Tomato}}
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| 12
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| 2.17
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|-
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|{{name|Sunflower}}
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| 14
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| 1.78
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|-
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|{{name|Radish}}
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| 15
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| 2.57
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|-
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|{{name|Summer Spangle}}
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| 15
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| 1.93
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|-
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|{{name|Poppy}}
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| 20
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| 2.88
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|-
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|{{name|Melon}}
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| 27
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| 2.27
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|-
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|{{name|Red Cabbage}}
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| 28
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| 3.09
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|-
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|{{name|Starfruit}}
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| 43
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| 3.37
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|-
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|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
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| 38
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| 3.97*
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|-
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|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
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| 14
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| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Taro Root}}
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| 16
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| 1.65 <sup>3</sup><br /> 2.35 <sup>4</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Pineapple}}
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| 30
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| 2.83
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|}
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{|class="wikitable sortable" style="float: left;"
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|-
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!colspan="3"|Fall
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|-
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! Crop
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! XP
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! XP/d
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|-
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|{{name|Wheat}}
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| 6
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| 1.49
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|-
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|{{name|Corn}}
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| 10
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| 1.58 <sup>1</sup><br /> 2.09 <sup>2</sup>
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|-
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|{{name|Eggplant}}
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| 12
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| 2.34
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|-
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|{{name|Bok Choy}}
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| 14
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| 3.57
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|-
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|{{name|Cranberries}}
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| 14
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| 2.53
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|-
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|{{name|Grape}}
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| 14
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| 3.43
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|-
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|{{name|Sunflower}}
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| 14
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| 1.78
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|-
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|{{name|Beet}}
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| 16
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| 2.75
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|-
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|{{name|Amaranth}}
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| 21
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| 2.99
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|-
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|{{name|Artichoke}}
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| 22
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| 2.71
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|-
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|{{name|Yam}}
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| 22
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| 2.17
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|-
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|{{name|Fairy Rose}}
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| 29
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| 2.44
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|-
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|{{name|Pumpkin}}
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| 31
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| 2.35
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|-
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|{{name|Ancient Fruit}}
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| 38
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| 3.97*
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|-
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|{{name|Sweet Gem Berry}}
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| 64
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| 2.67
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|-
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|{{name|Cactus Fruit}}
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| 14
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| 3.04 <sup>7</sup><br /> 4.39 <sup>8</sup>
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|}
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{{Clear}}
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:<sup>1</sup> 1 season
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:<sup>2</sup> 2 seasons
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:<sup>3</sup> Unirrigated
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:<sup>4</sup> Irrigated
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:<sup>5</sup> Planted on Spring 1
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:<sup>6</sup> Planted on Spring 13/14
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:<sup>7</sup> Planting season
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:<sup>8</sup> Each season thereafter
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:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Assumes seed crafted for free from [[Ancient Seed]] Artifact, grown for 3 seasons.</blockquote>
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:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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::My bad for the edit, thanks for opening the discussion! [[User:Xyrsis|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis|talk]]) 06:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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==Notation==
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The formula <samp>XP=||16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)||</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing because <samp>||x||</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.
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: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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