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...and that's incorrect, he doesn't like espresso, he hates it. the only thing in the list of "exceptions to not liking cooking" that he likes is mango sticky rice. i think my original edit was correct? [[User:Cooperka|Cooperka]] ([[User talk:Cooperka|talk]]) 16:12, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
...and that's incorrect, he doesn't like espresso, he hates it. the only thing in the list of "exceptions to not liking cooking" that he likes is mango sticky rice. i think my original edit was correct? [[User:Cooperka|Cooperka]] ([[User talk:Cooperka|talk]]) 16:12, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
:Well, all villagers' pages are written the same way; that is, an exception to an exception means we don't know how they feel about the item, just that it's an exception to the rule. So, Leo doesn't necessarily like any of the listed cooked dishes, it's just that they don't follow the rule that "Leo doesn't like cooking". Basically it means "do more research before gifting these items". I know it can be a mind-bender. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
:Well, all villagers' pages are written the same way; that is, an exception to an exception means we don't know how they feel about the item, just that it's an exception to the rule. So, Leo doesn't necessarily like any of the listed cooked dishes, it's just that they don't follow the rule that "Leo doesn't like cooking". Basically it means "do more research before gifting these items". I know it can be a mind-bender. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
::it makes sense that a '''regular''' exception means "we don't know how they feel, so do more research before gifting", but an exception to an exception should mean something different than that, shouldn't it? i looked through every villager page and i'd like to hear your thoughts on the list below. there are only a few villagers who have double-negated entries, and most of the entries are written "correctly" from my perspective, with only a few exceptions in parentheticals below:
::* [[Krobus]] - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes Seafoam Pudding (so no modification is needed here; his page is already correct from my perspective)
::* [[Sebastian]] - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Coffee & Green Tea (so i think we should just remove Oil from the exceptions to not liking Artisan Goods because, '''as expected''', he doesn't "like" Oil. Oil is '''not''' an exception to his "not liking Artisan Goods", it actually follows the rule, so there's no need to name it. otherwise, we would need to enumerate the entire set of Artisan Goods -- for example, why isn't Honey listed there too?)
::* [[Jas]] - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Honey & Jelly (so i think we should remove Oil)
::* [[Vincent]] - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Honey & Jelly (so i think we should remove Oil)
::* [[Linus]] - universal likes except Gems, but still likes Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard)
::* [[Pierre]] - universal likes except Gems, but still likes Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard)
::* [[Leo]] - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes Mango Sticky Rice (so i think we should remove Bread, Fried Egg, Poi, & Triple Shot Espresso)
::* [[Willy]] - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes quite a few cooked dishes that are listed explicitly in his table (so i think we should remove the sentence about being neutral to some cooked dishes, because that's redundant information and is already listed in the "neutral" section)
::* [[Leah]] - universal likes except Foraged Minerals and Gems, but still likes Earth Crystal and Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard). beautifully formatted list, i would love to format all double-negations this way for readability, if you think it's appropriate.
::so, of the 9 pages that include double-negative items, 12 of the double-negatives are already "correct" from my perspective, and only 10 should be removed; it's a fairly minor cleanup. does this help clarify what i mean? [[User:Cooperka|Cooperka]] ([[User talk:Cooperka|talk]]) 20:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)