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I appreciate that you want to help a new editor who appeared to ask a legitimate question.  However, what I saw in the abuse logs was vandalism and attempted personal insults.  Please don't engage any further with the vandal in question.  Thank you, [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 18:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 
I appreciate that you want to help a new editor who appeared to ask a legitimate question.  However, what I saw in the abuse logs was vandalism and attempted personal insults.  Please don't engage any further with the vandal in question.  Thank you, [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 18:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 
:According to [[Special:AbuseLog]] and [[Special:Contributions/Wrqqfw|his contributions]], I don't think what he has done is unforgivable. Besides, he didn't leave anything unsuitable on his talkpage, and the talkheader says that ''don't delete discussions''. If you saw other vandalism or anything else, I'll make apologize for this.  [[User:Horizon98|Horizon98]] ([[User talk:Horizon98|talk]]) 04:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 
:According to [[Special:AbuseLog]] and [[Special:Contributions/Wrqqfw|his contributions]], I don't think what he has done is unforgivable. Besides, he didn't leave anything unsuitable on his talkpage, and the talkheader says that ''don't delete discussions''. If you saw other vandalism or anything else, I'll make apologize for this.  [[User:Horizon98|Horizon98]] ([[User talk:Horizon98|talk]]) 04:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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==Templates==
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I'm sorry to say this, but you aren't listening to my comments when I say not to make a particular change.  Repeatedly undoing edits by an Admin is, strictly speaking, a violation of wiki policy.  It also creates a lot more work for me.
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I understand that you have only the best intentions.  You need to understand that when I say "no" to a change, I've thought about it and made the best and final decision for the wikis, based on information that you may not have.  Please consider this a formal request to stop undoing Admin edits and changing templates without discussion, or after I've specifically instructed you not to. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 00:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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:I'll reply this topic in several parts below. [[User:Horizon98|Horizon98]] ([[User talk:Horizon98|talk]]) 06:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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===My intention===
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I created the [[User:Horizon98/Crop Growth Calendars|Module:Crop Growth Calendars]] and [[User:Horizon98/CraftingRecipes|Module:CraftingRecipes]] to reduce the repeated work which has to be done in the future update. They work well and we can update or translate the data easily. For exaple, I can use about one minute to list one crop's growth calendars with the module, and use several seconds to totally update it with another speed. But I have to use more than half an hour to list one calendar with wikitext. I took about 5 minutes to translate [[Template:CraftingRecipes]] to another language and you took more than 20 minutes. Even if there are one more craftable objects in the future, the form has to be updated entirely. While using the module, it only takes several minutes to update the data.
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You said that ''I've thought about it and made the best and final decision for the wikis, based on information that you may not have.''. You could explain the decision instead of saying ''based on information that I don't have''.
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Apart from this, I created the [[Template:CraftingRecipes]]. But you reverted my update of the template without practical reason. In other words, did I lose the permission to edit the template that I created?
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===Talk pages===
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I have talked on your talk page or other relating pages before editing templates. But you don't provide practical reasons why you refuse to use the module, or just ignored the talks. In some situation, you reverted my edit on other pages without reason.
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Unfinished talks:
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* [[Talk:Crop Growth Calendars#Using module to replace this page]]
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* [[:zh:User talk:Margotbean#Strange Capsule]]
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* [[User talk:Horizon98#New editor]]
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* [[User talk:Margotbean#Apply for the permission to edit module pages]]
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===About violating the wiki policy===
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I don't konw the policy that we can't undo edits by an Admin according to [[Help:Editing]] or other pages. And I didn't ''repeatedly'' undo your edits. The revisions are on different pages no more than 2 times and I think that my revisions are reasonable and follow the [[wikipedia:WP:3RR 3RR]] rule.
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===This wiki is maintained by everyone===
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I have learned a lot from the wiki. And I understand that maintaining such a wiki will takes you several hours everyday. And it's a hard work to maintain the wiki for years. Sincerely, I admire your continuous work on the wiki. But this wiki is ''maintained by contributors from the Stardew Valley community and the wiki's moderators and administrators''. Everyone can help you with updating pages, improving the wiki and protect this wiki from vandalism.
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--[[User:Horizon98|Horizon98]] ([[User talk:Horizon98|talk]]) 06:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

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New editor

I appreciate that you want to help a new editor who appeared to ask a legitimate question. However, what I saw in the abuse logs was vandalism and attempted personal insults. Please don't engage any further with the vandal in question. Thank you, margotbean (talk) 18:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

According to Special:AbuseLog and his contributions, I don't think what he has done is unforgivable. Besides, he didn't leave anything unsuitable on his talkpage, and the talkheader says that don't delete discussions. If you saw other vandalism or anything else, I'll make apologize for this. Horizon98 (talk) 04:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Templates

I'm sorry to say this, but you aren't listening to my comments when I say not to make a particular change. Repeatedly undoing edits by an Admin is, strictly speaking, a violation of wiki policy. It also creates a lot more work for me.

I understand that you have only the best intentions. You need to understand that when I say "no" to a change, I've thought about it and made the best and final decision for the wikis, based on information that you may not have. Please consider this a formal request to stop undoing Admin edits and changing templates without discussion, or after I've specifically instructed you not to. margotbean(talk) 00:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I'll reply this topic in several parts below. Horizon98 (talk) 06:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

My intention

I created the Module:Crop Growth Calendars and Module:CraftingRecipes to reduce the repeated work which has to be done in the future update. They work well and we can update or translate the data easily. For exaple, I can use about one minute to list one crop's growth calendars with the module, and use several seconds to totally update it with another speed. But I have to use more than half an hour to list one calendar with wikitext. I took about 5 minutes to translate Template:CraftingRecipes to another language and you took more than 20 minutes. Even if there are one more craftable objects in the future, the form has to be updated entirely. While using the module, it only takes several minutes to update the data.

You said that I've thought about it and made the best and final decision for the wikis, based on information that you may not have.. You could explain the decision instead of saying based on information that I don't have.

Apart from this, I created the Template:CraftingRecipes. But you reverted my update of the template without practical reason. In other words, did I lose the permission to edit the template that I created?

Talk pages

I have talked on your talk page or other relating pages before editing templates. But you don't provide practical reasons why you refuse to use the module, or just ignored the talks. In some situation, you reverted my edit on other pages without reason.

Unfinished talks:

About violating the wiki policy

I don't konw the policy that we can't undo edits by an Admin according to Help:Editing or other pages. And I didn't repeatedly undo your edits. The revisions are on different pages no more than 2 times and I think that my revisions are reasonable and follow the wikipedia:WP:3RR 3RR rule.

This wiki is maintained by everyone

I have learned a lot from the wiki. And I understand that maintaining such a wiki will takes you several hours everyday. And it's a hard work to maintain the wiki for years. Sincerely, I admire your continuous work on the wiki. But this wiki is maintained by contributors from the Stardew Valley community and the wiki's moderators and administrators. Everyone can help you with updating pages, improving the wiki and protect this wiki from vandalism.

--Horizon98 (talk) 06:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)