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:::::::: The details of any specific ban are private, and will not be discussed here. No legitimate editor has or will ever be banned without warning, message, or discussion with the editor. Please direct further questions to [[User talk:ColitoCole|Cole's talk page]] or the email address given above. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 23:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
:::::::: The details of any specific ban are private, and will not be discussed here. No legitimate editor has or will ever be banned without warning, message, or discussion with the editor. Please direct further questions to [[User talk:ColitoCole|Cole's talk page]] or the email address given above. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 23:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
::::::::: I didn't ask about the details, even so: the details aren't private, they are openly visible for everyone to see on the wiki, since you didn't communicate with Horizon in private. I asked for which specific wiki policy was violated - the ban reason is 'Violation of wiki policy'. The wiki policy is not private, it needs to be public. So what you are saying is that he did not repeatedly violate a wiki policy, otherwise you could easily link or quote to which policy was violated. The banned user himself asked you what he violated and you didn't answer him, neither in public nor in private. The fact remains that you state bogus ban reasons, and when asked about policy you say it's private. How does that even make sense? You are a terrible, power-tripping moderator. Don't complain about workload with your behaviour when you ban or drive away the very people who reduce that workload because of some weird power-tripping ego-issues [[User:JR8|JR8]] ([[User talk:JR8|talk]]) 23:50, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
::::::::: I didn't ask about the details, even so: the details aren't private, they are openly visible for everyone to see on the wiki, since you didn't communicate with Horizon in private. I asked for which specific wiki policy was violated - the ban reason is 'Violation of wiki policy'. The wiki policy is not private, it needs to be public. So what you are saying is that he did not repeatedly violate a wiki policy, otherwise you could easily link or quote to which policy was violated. The banned user himself asked you what he violated and you didn't answer him, neither in public nor in private. The fact remains that you state bogus ban reasons, and when asked about policy you say it's private. How does that even make sense? You are a terrible, power-tripping moderator. Don't complain about workload with your behaviour when you ban or drive away the very people who reduce that workload because of some weird power-tripping ego-issues [[User:JR8|JR8]] ([[User talk:JR8|talk]]) 23:50, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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:::::::::: I can see from people's comments reviewed that this is often '''not''' their first wiki editing experience. Tom Haws is a '''Wikipedia administrator''' for crying out loud (see his user page links). I'm not new to editing (non-fandom/gamepedia) wikis, and I find the admin behavior here poor. I see Margotbean disallowing things that appear to stem from a lack of MW knowledge. I see other's comments on this also, as well as missing wiki features that would invalidate the excuses. Excuses or not, there are ways to treat people that are respectful, and ways that aren't. Telling someone they can do something to turn around and reverse that very thing is not respectful. Being short on staff or time is not a valid excuse, the behavior is why the team doesn't expand. '''Thank you Cole, for at least confirming that the poor behavior appears to be condoned, because at least this lets people know not to waste their time. I'd ask that this section of the conversation is never archived please'''.
:::::::::: For a lot of gamers, contributing to a community's resources is half of the fun of gaming (this includes programmers and software engineers). Also, having a lack of proper policies and guidance is part of the problem (I see someone recently vandalized to this point, which I do '''not''' condone, but can certainly understand the impulse. Without robust policy documentation, Margotbean '''does''' make up the rules as she goes (to agree with the few lines I could read in the vandalism deletion summary--but stop please, vandalism is '''not''' the way to handle that). Margotbean also does not appear to treat all users the same. Further, bots are allowed on most wikis for a reason (you have no policy stating people can't, and anyone can edit via the MW API without you ever realizing they're using a bot, as long as it is well throttled). The ability to disable the edit API no longer exists in MW. The banned editor's ''real'' mistake was simply informing Margotbean of what she was ignorant to (she never would have known otherwise, if the user kept doing small throttled updates). Banning out of a lack of either knowledge or policies looks punitive, no matter how you slice it. The way things are done here is backwards (the Wikipedia Admin and other's spotted it quickly). Hopefully the other users who complained come back one day, if only to see they made the right choice. You have multiple different users here all saying similar things, which should tell you something. Conversation in private just allows the poor behavior to continue. [[User:User6789|User6789]] ([[User talk:User6789|talk]]) 01:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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