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Prismatic Jelly and Ectoplasm

Hello, I'm pretty sure you can gift villagers prismatic jelly and ectoplasm during their respective special order quest, I swear I saw the gift icon pops up as you pass by any NPC (not just the wizard) with it in your hotbar, though I've already completed the quest so I can't get you a screenshot. You can definitely gift it using the spawn feature by naming your character or animal [875][876]. Infiaria (talk) 08:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Infiaria! Correct you are, I have seen the gift box icon over villagers' heads too, but when you click on them, the game pops up an "Incorrect person" message in the lower left of the screen. If you wear a Burglar's Ring and get 2 of the item (without ID spawning), the same thing happens after you complete the quest and before the extra item disappears. So, except for very specific circumstances, the game makes sure the item is not giftable.

I will add a trivia note to the pages, similar to the one on the Stardrop page, that indicates the item can be spawned and given as a universally hated gift. ok? Thanks for pointing this out. margotbean (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Cheers, I didn't know that. Infiaria (talk) 14:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

*Bat Noises Intensify*

Heyo

I was playing Stardew Valley recently, and encountered a very unusual bug: I was going to fulfill a request for Lewis when, once I interacted with him, a bat sound effect played, and he jumped in surprise, then showed a hate bubble appear over his head. This continued to happen, regardless of what I did (Even shooting him with my master slingshot to see if I could trigger the dialogue for it! [It did not work, and just made me feel a little bad :/ ...]). Do you know anything about this? Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

You're wearing his pants. Atravita (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh God, you're right! I didn't even realize that! I was yet to get any cloth in that save, so I spent the 99 stone to make the staircase into shorts! I forgot they have the same properties as the regular shorts... Thanks though! Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Standardize hotfix format in version history

Hi! Hotfixes don't change the version number and they're usually small, so they're a bit awkward to show on Version History. We've historically handled them pretty inconsistently; for example:

• 1.5.5+ shows each hotfix as a separate release with its own section like 1.5.6 (hotfix 2022-12-22).
• 1.5.3 lists the hotfixes in the intro, then merges their changes into the main release with markers like ¹.
• 1.5.1 says some fixes were deployed in three unversioned hotfixes, then merges their changes into the main release without distinguishing them.

I want to standardize how they're handled, but I'm not sure what's the best format to use. What do you think of one section per version number, with hotfixes listed at the bottom (see mockup)? —Pathoschild (talk) 23:41, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Definitely the mockup! I dislike seeing "hotfix" in the headers and TOC in such a big font like v1.5.5; I do like v1.5.3, but if the little "1" or asterisk (or whatever marker we use to denote the hotfix) is accidentally deleted, then we may be searching page history for hours to reconcile it -- it's too fragile a system. I don't like losing info (like v1.5.1) at all.

The only thing I somewhat don't like about the mockup is that it violates the "newest version at the top" rule... but the hotfixes are unversioned, and the format makes sense within the version section.

So, there you have it, my vote is for the mockup 100%. :) margotbean (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

It was a bit harder to read in practice, so I tweaked the design to more clearly separate hotfixes from the main release. I migrated 1.5.3 through 1.5.6; how does that look? —Pathoschild (talk) 00:37, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind if I add my two cents. I like the new format in general, but I don't like that the dates of the hotfixes are buried in the middle/end of the section. If I look at the section for 1.5.6, it says, "Stardew Valley 1.5.6 was released on 21 December 2021." Unless I scroll down, I don't see that a hotfix was applied yesterday. I am misled into thinking I have the most recent version. So I would like the hotfixes to be acknowledged in that introductory sentence/paragraph. Unfortunately, doing that may force a change in how you introduce the hotfixes in the hotfix box. Zendowolf (talk) 15:47, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I made a couple of formatting tweaks to the gray box around the hotfixes, what do you think? Other than those formatting tweaks, I think it looks great! I don't see a way around having the hotfixes at the bottom of the section, but the gray box makes them stand out more. The alternative would be to start the section with a sentence describing a hotfix without first discussing the major release, which doesn't really make sense to me. I await your feedback, and please let me know when I can copy the new template to the other languages. Thank you!! margotbean (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks fine to me! —Pathoschild (talk) 17:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I tend to agree, so I added a note saying when the last hotfix was on the most current version, although whether or not we want to track that going forward is another debate. KNakamura (talk) 17:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

So, now we have the problem of v1.5.6 not matching the other versions again. I think we should mention the hotfixes in the intro paragraph for all versions, or none. Otherwise, the whole topic of standardization is moot. margotbean (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I've updated Template:MainLinks to the current version as of Jan. 18, so I've removed the "last hotfixed" sentence from Version History. Anyone who would like to add hotfix dates to the intro paragraphs for all versions is totally free to do so, I would not mind at all! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 17:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I added a sentence to each version that has a hotfix box to indicate the dates. I did not include a leading zero for the day (if less than 10), then noticed that some dates do have a leading zero and others do not. One date is Month DD, YYYY instead of DD Month YYYY. Should that be consistent, and if so, how? Zendowolf (talk) 20:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Zendowolf! It looks great! And it solves everyone's concerns.

Yes, the dates should absolutely be consistent. As for format, it's totally your choice. I only have 3 suggestions: (1) Keep the name of the month and don't substitute a number, (2) keep the year last, and (3) don't introduce "th" or "rd" (as in 14th or 3rd). If you have no preference, I suppose I like DD Month YYYY. It matches our signatures on talk pages, and it's understandable by people who normally put day first as well as us weird Americans who normally put month before day. But, if you strongly prefer Month DD, YYYY or another variant, go for it. :) Thank you again!! margotbean (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

While I was applying those changes, I noticed another issue. It looks like hotfixes for 1.5 were listed under 1.5.1. It's confusing because the release notes for the hotfixes were added to the 1.5.1 announcement, but the dates listed for the hotfixes were before the release of 1.5.1. I'm pretty sure it was "here's 1.5.1 and by the way, here's what we changed in the hotfixes we applied to 1.5" (also included in 1.5.1). I decided to Be Bold and change it, but if I'm wrong you can revert me. Zendowolf (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm fine with the 1.5/1.5.1 fix. We were previously using an almost-fully-consistent international date format (like 05 December 2021) though; what's the benefit of editing the entire page to drop the zero-padding, instead of fixing the inconsistent ones? —Pathoschild (talk) 23:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I was trying to make them consistent. The non-padded ones are more prevalent nearer the top, so as I was scanning down deciding which way to go, they seemed pretty evenly split. Non-padded seems more human readable, so that's the way I went. Doesn't really matter to me as long as they're consistent and can be kept consistent. Zendowolf (talk) 08:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I prefer zero-padded for consistency (especially when showing dates in a list), but I guess the wiki uses non-zero-padded by default so we can go with that. —Pathoschild (talk) 17:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Drink Ginger ale?

Hey margotbean, I saw on the wiki home page discussion about the ginger island addition, and saw you said you are sick! I hope you feel better soon! (Try drinking ginger ale. It worked for me when I caught the flu 2 years back, and it works to remove negitive status effects in SDV so..?) Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 15:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Omg being sick sucks. Get well soon! Youngbassoon370 (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, thank you both very much! I was indeed sick, and I drank lots of ginger ale. I'm feeling better now, farming at almost 100%. ;) margotbean (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Good to hear! Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 18:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Glad to hear it! Ginger for what ails you! Hail ginger for the ginger hale! I'll bet a potent ginger candy could help clear the sinuses too. There's an idea for Ape for another cooking recipe! Giles (talk) 00:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Maybe, Maybe... Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 23:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Farm Maps

I saw that you edited Farm Maps to remove the link that I had. I respectfully disagree about its removal - I think that if someone wanted to select which map they were to play on, and wanted to start with Cabins preplaced, that would be essential information from the get-go. I think personally if I didn't know about the existence of the page that I made, I would come to Farm Maps first and not find the information I would want. Fortunately Multiplayer has that information, but I still this this is a more important place to have it. Thank you for adding the categories and adjusting the wording on the other pages. Sraw (talk) 22:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Sraw! Thank you for your polite comment. You've given me something to think about. When I first came to the wiki (6 years ago), I was a player looking for information about one of the quests, and I couldn't find it. Of course, the information was there, but it wasn't where I expected it to be. Your case is something similar.

I'm still not sure it really makes sense for the Farm Maps page to link to Cabins, but if it helps a new player find the information, I don't mind a link. I'll add one at the top of the page. Please let me know if you think this new link helps players find crucial info, or if it should be embedded in the body of the page. Thank you again! margotbean (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I think that design is perfect. Low distraction but people who are seeking will probably notice it. Thanks. Sraw (talk) 01:25, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Traveling Cart Stock

Hello, new to the wiki and wanted to contribute without making a mess of things. I noticed the Traveling Cart page has been marked as a stub because it hasn't been updated to 1.5. I looked through the code and any new items added in 1.5 either fall outside the id range or were added to the list of items that are offlimits for sale. This is true for the rotating stock and the furniture. So I don't see any differences between the traveling cart between 1.4 and 1.5 and think that the stub should be removed. Squigs44 (talk) 21:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! margotbean (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Just updated a bunch of other stub items, working through them. If someone could take a look at the edits I made to the Carpenters Shop rotating stock and make the formatting look better, that would be great. I got all the info in there but my formatting skills are not great. Squigs44 (talk) 03:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Wow, that was a lot of work, thank you!! The formatting seems fine, I don't think you gave yourself enough credit. I may tinker with it to see if it can be condensed, but everything is perfectly clear and readable as is. Many thanks again! margotbean (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Penny hates glass shards

The glass shard page says penny likes glass shards. She actually hates them MeganAsh7 (talk) 14:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello MeganAsh7! That is a change made in v1.5, which hasn't rolled out to mobile yet. If you check the page history, you can see the change listed there. margotbean (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Fish page editing

idk if im doing this right lol, but i think the fish page should definitely have the collection, as the other pages with corresponding collections do (artifacts, minerals, items shipped, and cooking) and some of the page have similar lengths, so for consistency's sake they should be removed from all or added back to fish Drein (talk) 06:00, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

You definitely have a point, Drein! I just wonder if there would be mutiny if they were removed from the existing pages... Perhaps we should try it and find out? margotbean (talk) 16:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm gonna RIOT!! >:( .....jk lol, it sounds like a good idea to keep things consistant. QtheConqueror (talk) 10:11, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

SSSSHHHH! I'm only halfway done removing them! ;) margotbean (talk) 18:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

When I am checking one collection, I may well check others, so I like having them all on the one page rather than hunting down a bunch of pages. Take me on as a co-conspirator? I won't tell. ;) Giles (talk) 18:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

👌👍🤐😁 margotbean (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Combat

Thanks for adding the code reference I forgot to add to the crit calculations for daggers QtheConqueror (talk) 22:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! margotbean (talk) 18:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Problematic User

Hey! I don't know if you're aware, but there's a user making problematic edits (specifically, Sincap4859). I noticed that the person made some weird edits and then undid them immediately, and I didn't actually pay much attention to it. However, I think this edit is extremely problematic and probably worth at least a warning. Even though he undid it later, it reads as two edits which aren't constructive and extremely unnecessary. Looking at his user contributions, there is nothing meaningful or constructive about them either. I just wanted to put this to your attention. Thanks. User314159 (talk) 15:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Fishing: changing angle of bobber

Hello. Its mentioned that your unable to cast to left or right of yourself on android. I've accidently done it couple of times. Granted majority of the time the bobber bounces back. But just as I let go of cast I shift the analog stick to the left of right and I've had it couple times land to my left or right I don't know how I did it without bouncing back or what I did. Just wondering is something a miss here or Am I actually casting right and left. Dingo30 (talk) 20:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

That's a very interesting question. Unfortunately, I don't own the mobile version of the game, and haven't played on mobile since the original beta. So, I can't say what's going on. My best advice is to make a post on the Official Forums and see if other mobile players have experienced the same thing. I'm sorry that's the best I can do! If we discover that it's possible to reliably angle the cast on mobile, then we can add a note to the wiki. margotbean (talk) 23:18, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I experienced the same thing, I think I pressed one of the invisible buttons, but really I have no clue. Hope this helps! Leah12 (talk) 16:03, 26 March 2022

Egg Festival - 18 eggs WR

Hi margotbean, Since you're an admin, can you update the Egg Festival page for these 18-egg videos? I can't add them since they contain external links.

• • www[.]youtube[.]com/watch?v=dqBbECJMICs (Tool-assisted)
  • www[.]youtube[.]com/watch?v=rqtJwkpK-UE (Human)

Infiaria (talk) 21:01, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey Infiaria, people have tried to add that link (the human one) before, but the background music is so LOUD and OBNOXIOUS, I can't in good conscience add it to the page -- I just can't do that to unsuspecting wiki users. There's also no proof that 18 eggs is any kind of world record, as far as I can tell. The tool assisted video is a cheat, so not really appropriate. I'm sorry for the bad news. margotbean (talk) 21:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response margotbean.

I can see why you don't want the human record one (the sound is horrifying) but I don't clearly see why the TAS one isn't allowed. TAS isn't "cheating" in the traditional sense—that would be if like, the speed was set artificially set higher, more eggs were added in, or mods were included. TAS represents the highest percentage of what is physically possible, and it is not only physically possible, but humanly possible: you just seen it in that obnoxious video.

You also say that there's no proof that 18 eggs is a world record... well, first of all, if 18 eggs isn't a world record, there should exist one with 19 eggs (or higher), right? And, secondly, the second video with 14 eggs is titled "EGG HUNT RECORD"—this is misleading, is it not? Someone pedantic like me could also say the commentary in that video is annoying and unnecessary. (The first video is nice though.)

If, at least, you still don't want to add the TAS video in, maybe include a Trivia section say that the theoretical maximum achievable eggs that can be collected in Vanilla Stardew Valley is 18? (Again, you might say there's no proof, but if TAS can't achieve 19, then it's impossible. Plus, you can always update it if it somehow is.)

Um, so finally. I have an image with the route with 18 eggs as shown in the video. Can that be added? Though it seems that uploading images is broken at the moment—don't know if it's just me. I'll try again tomorrow. Infiaria (talk) 22:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Why don't we remove the youtube link to the 14 egg video and replace the 14 egg image with the 18 egg image? On that note, image uploading should be fixed, I have one of the server people looking into it, I'm just waiting for a response. I was unable to upload an image last week, and there was supposedly a fix put in. It might be that you're a new(er) user? I'll see what the server people say. Thanks, margotbean (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Great, I have it uploaded now. Thanks for your work! Infiaria (talk) 07:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Haley and Penny’s pages

Hi margotbean,

So, I was just looking at the best gifts section of Penny’s page, didn’t)t have any of her loved gifts, and said to myself ‘Oh, well, I’ll just give her a rabbit’s foot.’, forgetting that she was one of the exceptions to the universal loves. I think that in their pages, in the top box thing with quick information, the fact that the two of them hate rabbit’s foot/prismatic shard should be added, so that someone like me who only glances at their best gifts section on the top of the page, doesn’t go around giving Haley prismatic shards like everyone else. Could I add those exceptions to the blue box thingy?

Thanks! Leah12 (talk) 16:01, 26 March 2022

I'm sorry, that particular infobox doesn't have a parameter to add such info to it. Perhaps the List of All Gifts will help? I use it myself frequently. margotbean (talk) 03:36, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I’ll check that out. Leah12 (talk) 10:21 27 March 2022

Shipping page

I was reading wiki and wanted to see what can be shipped and how much I’ll get but it’s not on the shipping page so, if I type a word pad of everything as I see on my screen, could I send it to you to put in that page and we can sort by price? I mean, I know I can visit each object's pages but, I was thinking to visit Shipping page to decide what I want to sell etc Timmy30274 (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

That would only make sense if you had 1 or more of each thing available to sell, and wanted to sell only the most expensive items. The better question is which items should you keep and why, and that info is listed on pages like Artisan Goods, Crafting, Cooking, and Quests. margotbean (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Elliott's Schedule

On Elliott's schedule at says on Thursdays and Saturdays if the player has 6+ hearts with Leah he will be in Pierre's shop when he leaves his house. According to the schedule page he *should* have been on the beach (on my file). He wasnt there. Ended up finding him in Pierre's shop (it was Thursday). It was only day 4 and I obviously did not have 6+ hearts with Leah. Would like to see this fixed if possible <3 BunnyisDreaming (talk) 17:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

I see what you're saying, but I think it's just confusing and not actually wrong. It says "Thursday, Friday" but "Friday and Sunday". So I think the intent for the former is that it applies to every Thursday but only on Friday if the player has 6+ hearts. I'm not sure the best way to change it so that it's more clear. It's that way in all four seasons. Maybe Margotbean has an idea (and can confirm my supposition). Zendowolf (talk) 01:55, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

I added a line break to make what Zendowolf was saying more clear. Hope this helps! margotbean (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I add code references?

I can say with almost absolute certainty that the club's secondary attack cannot deal critical hits, and I tested this extensively in-game. However, I don't know how to view the game's code, and even if I did, I don't think there is a simple way to prove that an oversight was made. Is it really necessary to provide code references for something that I found out through simple observation? Baconfry39 (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

the function MeleeWeapon.triggerClubFunction just calls who.currentLocation.damageMonster. I don't see where the club's special is singled out when it comes to crits. Not sure though, damageMonster is kinda long :P Atravita (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

all we would need is for one person to come forward and say that they have dealt a critical hit with the club's special attack. this would be the easiest thing to disprove. but I have spent like 20 minutes smashing things with my 3x aquamarine club and have yet to see a single crit from the special attack. (I also don't see a code reference for the club's ability to deal multiple attacks by clicking repeatedly, despite the fact that anyone can try this out in-game.) Honestly I'm feeling frustrated that my good-faith edits are being reverted by someone who won't even entertain the possibility that the information I'm adding might actually be true. Baconfry39 (talk) 21:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

oh I see, MeleeWeapon.triggerClubFunction calls damageMonster with a critChance of 0. Margotbean, I can confirm this in the code. (for the record, I'm just using ILSpy to look at the dll. Instructions here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F) Atravita (talk) 21:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the code ref, Atravita! margotbean (talk) 23:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

List of ingredients used in crafting

Hello! Thank you for redirecting me to the existing list of crafting materials! (i.e. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/User:Margotbean/IngredientsShortList) This is exactly what I was looking for but couldn't find. I'll do my best to learn more about wiki editing before I try for another big contribution! (Side question: Is there a beginner's guide somewhere with the guidelines for how to contribute to the wiki?)

So I was wondering ― Is there a reason why this list hasn't been added to the main wiki? I wasn't able to find it via the wiki search. (In fact, I wasn't even aware that user page resources like this existed.) The cooking page has the full list of ingredients on it, so it seemed appropriate to put a similar list on the main crafting page as well. I think it would be really helpful to have this somewhere with more visibility!

Xazuo (talk) 03:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Xazuo! You may find some useful tips at Help:Editing. As for the list of ingredients, I never added it to the Crafting page because I simply didn't want to make the page longer. In addition, I find that crafting is something I do on day 1 of gameplay, whereas cooking takes longer. So, the list of ingredients isn't as helpful (by the time I think to look at it, I've already crafted several recipes). It could be added to the page, but I would definitely prefer the short version (a simple list) rather than the huge tables we have on the Cooking page. Welcome, and thanks for your question! margotbean (talk) 17:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

uhm how can you see my pages. SOMEHOW

StarWiki :) (talk) 09:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

The Lunar Eclipse

Hey everybody! I know it has been a while since I last checked in, (Valheim streaming with friends) but I wanted to make sure everyone was doing alright. I hope you got a good look at last night's lunar eclipse. I know I did! Anyways, have a good day! Fnaticlyric560 (talk) 14:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Updating wiki pages to standardize formats

Sorrol (talk) 15:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Margotbean,

Using the wiki on a frequent basis, I noticed inconsistencies between the formatting of pages regarding similar subjects. For instance the schedules of Emily and Gus are shown in a completely different format from Haley and Demetrius. I estimate it to be about 50% of the villagers in one format, and 50% in the other.

Now, I was thinking about standardizing these formats and making changes accordingly whenever I notice inconsistencies. Before I do so though, I figured I'd reach out to you (I was referred to you by PathosChild) to make sure this would be desired and not to step on anyone's toes, especially if these formats have already been considered.

If any other help is needed with the wiki, consider me more than open and willing to help! It seems like a lot of fun to me!

Cheers, Sorrol

Hello Sorrol! The villagers schedules' format was discussed (at length) when the wiki was new. Some villagers' schedules vary by season, and others don't, so the seasonal schedules have one format, and the rest have the other. The schedule dictates the format, in all 12 languages. If you find that the schedule details are inaccurate, however, you're welcome to update them!

You can also use the utility located at https://stardew.selbysaurus.me/

I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it has more interactive capabilities than the wiki allows for. Thanks, margotbean (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that edit on my userpage

I would never have found the problem mysself! Also, what would you think of a strategy guide page about getting lots of money fast? It is related to pigs. A lot of pigs. And wine. And other stuff. Im still researching easy ways though. Easy fast ways. Those prismatic shards won't find themselves, so you gotta save some time to look for them! L10nM4st3r (talk) 10:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! I think a strategy guide such as that would be a good candidate for the forums' "Guides and Resources" section, located at https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/guides-resources.14/. Good luck! margotbean (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Argh. I went to make an account, and saw that I need a email adress. I have none right now, and cant make one. Maybe one day. I'll write down my findings somewhere to save it for when I have an email address. Anyway, have a good day/evening. L10nM4st3r (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of {{executable name}}

Hi! The template was only used on one page because I was still collecting feedback on the format. The plan was to apply it throughout the modding documentation, everywhere we reference an executable, to solve a common source of confusion. —Pathoschild (talk) 05:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

OK, I can always undo the changes and undelete the template. Next time, please discuss template changes w/me before making them? Templates have to be copied into the other 11 languages, and translated. When they're in the beta state, that would be a good thing to let the admin know about. 👍 I'm going to create a category called "Modding Templates" where more experimentation can take place, please make use of modding template talk pages! margotbean (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, I can discuss any new templates before they're created. What do you want me to do with the talk pages?

The modding pages aren't actively translated into other languages though; the main page is only in 5 other languages, and they're all woefully incomplete or outdated. —Pathoschild (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Use the talk pages to discuss changes to existing templates before they're made, and to gather feedback on newly created ones (you said you're collecting feedback on the format of "executable name"). If you're doing that mostly on discord, that's fine, but definitely use them before making changes to other templates. Let modders know they can comment on the wiki as well. Obviously a template won't have a talk page if we're in the discussion stage, and it's not yet created.

I know the other languages' modding sections are in a sorry state. Some of the contributing factors to that are the rapid number of changes made in English, the complexities of the pages, the html mixed with mediawiki syntax, the missing templates, and the frequent page name changes. I'd like to make it as easy as possible for them to translate technical jargon without stumbling over those kinds of issues. I feel awful for them when I see them try, and then give up because they just can't figure out why the page doesn't look right. I've tried to step in and help, and it's taken me way too long to figure it out myself at times. I would like that to change, and give them a fighting chance. After all, they never announce when they've decided to start translating modding pages, they just show up at any time.

Side note: do you know why the modding wiki is down, and is it coming back? margotbean (talk) 18:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, modding is still very much in flux; things change much faster in modding than they do for the game itself. That should hopefully start to settle down after Stardew Valley 1.6, which will standardize a lot of the modding approaches. Creating other templates or using CSS styles to replace some of the HTML / wiki markup might help too.

Re the unofficial tutorial wiki, apparently there's an issue with the stardewmodding.wiki domain. You can use the underlying domain (stardewmodding.miraheze.org) until they get that sorted out. —Pathoschild (talk) 18:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Edit war on Emily's page

In case you don't notice, there's somebody who insists on making changes to the page for Emily that have been reverted several times, including by you. Thanks for your attention. Zendowolf (talk) 05:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Winter Fiber Seeds

Hello, I recently got the fiber seeds unlocked from Linus and wanted to see how long they took to grow. I saw on the wiki page for fiber seeds that they can be grown in winter but on the winter wiki page it doesn’t state that they can be grown in winter. I haven’t made it to winter yet and was wondering if they could be grown in winter. Thank you much! Varce (talk) 20:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, they can be grown in winter. User314159 (talk) 23:13, 29 June 2022 (UTC)