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Most Helpful Contribution (Especially From New Editors)

Hi, I’ve been checking out the recent changes page every so often for a while now in anticipation of the new release and it’s clear that you have a lot on your hands. The “Help Editing” page doesn’t give any pointers towards the kind of changes that would be most helpful to you and the wiki, so (a) I was wondering if you had any in mind (or if there’s a “wanted tasks” list that I missed!)

Two more related questions -

(b) if a user spots vandalism before you get to it, do you prefer that they leave it to you or revert the change?

(c) the “help editing” page says that changes in formatting should be applied across all languages. What exactly does that encompass? I assume new information can be added to only one language, but what about adding a new section to an article?

And finally, one question that is only partially related - (d) do you think it could be worth adding a note to Emily’s page explaining why Clint isn’t one of her friends, as this seems to be a common cause of confusion and incorrect edits? I’m sure this is on her talk page but it may be worth adding to the actual page for those users who only read the wiki. --Gravy (talk) 22:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello Gravy! I haven't had a "help wanted" list since v1.3, so, no, there's nothing I can point you to. After v1.6 releases, it's going to be a free-for-all, so knock yourself out then (so to speak). :D
You should clean up vandalism if you see it. If a vandal has made several changes to a page, that involves hitting the "undo" link multiple times, starting with the most recent change, and working backwards. It's time-consuming and can be confusing looking through the version history list, but that's the best way to ensure information isn't changed or lost in the process. If I come along later and see something has changed, I may revert the cleanup and then revert the vandalism, because I have access to more powerful links to do so. You should not take it personally! I appreciate vandalism clean-up!
Changes to existing formatting require discussion, adding a new section (if it's substantial) should also be discussed. When version 1.6 is released, new information will be added without discussing formatting, as people discover it. New pages and sections will be added, and no one is expected to add them to all 12 languages. But until then, formatting changes encompass everything on the wiki.
As for Emily and Clint, they may well be friends after v1.6 is released. There is new dialogue being added, so we may (or may not) see more of their relationship being revealed. I don't know. The basis for "friendship" was always "if they give a gifting hint, they're friends, otherwise not." But I added a table for that and removed the field from the infobox on each villager's page, so their friendship is subjective and open to interpretation now. I don't think we need to take action until after v1.6 is released.
I'll update Help:Editing to reflect that some of the "rules" don't apply to version 1.6 as well. Happy Farming! margotbean (talk) 19:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Quarry Floors in The Dangerous Mines

In The Mines, dungeon floors are a type of floor that spawns in The Mines after The Player enters the Quarry Mine for the first time. The floors spawn Haunted Skulls, copper and iron slimes, copper and iron nodes. I added a blurb to the quarry section of the Mines Page, just so you know. Have I done something wrong when doing this? 9000 (talk) 5:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

I cleaned up the language a bit, but otherwise it's fine. Thanks for your contribution! margotbean (talk) 19:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

The Main Page not updating its image

In the Main Page of this Wiki, it has an image to the right of the Stardew Valley logo, which changes depending on the month of the year, the main page image changes to "Banner Right Winter" in the following months: December, January, and February. This is an image of George's House in Winter. And in December of 2023, the main page image didn't get updated. Should we set up a code in the Wiki where it automatically updates the main page image, instead of you editing the page too many times? 9000 (talk) 4:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! margotbean (talk) 20:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Missing Link

It seems that a link to the Bus Stop page on the Main Page is missing, can we get a link to the Bus page on this page? Because it is considered a location in the Valley section in this Wikipedia page. 9000 (talk) 5:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Harvey 4-heart and 8-heart Events

Margot, on 31 Dec 23 you reversed an edit by 9000 that stated Harvey needed to be in the clinic in order to trigger the 8-heart event. Are you sure? I have documented (privately) that his presence is required for both 4-heart and 8-heart events. I think that game behavior disagrees with the event file. Perhaps there's a bug? Giles (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

The game files are pretty clear: Harvey needs to be at the Clinic for the 4-heart event but not the 8-heart event. margotbean (talk) 20:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

You commenting to edits in all caps

Hello Margot, in the 9000 talk page, you made a discussion about us commenting in all caps, and you told us to stop doing it, you do this when you edit sometimes, when you're shouting at Users to stop doing something, like adding too many links, adding gibberish, etc. You did not answer my topic for the Bus Stop link in the Main Page, or Battery Packs in the Bug Lair, why don't you answer somebody's topic sometimes? Please explain Margot. 9000 (talk) 05:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Periods after Reference Links

Hello Margot, in many pages in the Wiki, they have References, but for some reason, if there is a Reference Link at the end of a paragraph, you put the period right after it instead of before it. Please reconsider doing this. 9000 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Steam Achievements Work When SMAPI is Launched as a Non-Steam Game

On the "Modding:Installing SMAPI on Windows" page, it says it is currently untested as to whether Steam achievements work when SMAPI is launched as a non-steam game. I tested it out and got a video of it working! I can't post an external link here, but if you're interested then let me know how I can send it to you. Milkants (talk) 00:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm confused as to why you posted this here, Milkants... Please go ahead and edit the modding page, and place a comment on its talk page saying the video is on youtube, and the video id is D5ooOUCDnAY. ok? Thank you, margotbean (talk) 03:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revisions of the Milk Pail and Shears pages

Hello Margot, in the Milk Pail and Shears pages, the latest revision for these pages are both 16 February 2020, at 15:21. No Users have changed these pages for almost 4 years now, just so you know about it. 9000 (talk) 05:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

For reference, below is a collapsible table about the two items:

Tools used on the Animals 
Image Name Description Price
Milk Pail.png Milk Pail Gather milk from your animals. data-sort-value="1000">Gold.png1,000g
Shears.png Shears Use this to collect wool from sheep data-sort-value="1000">Gold.png1,000g

Uploading Files to v1.6

Rotten Plant.png
Rotten Plant 2.png

Hello Margot, since v1.6 is right around the corner, there's gonna be a lot of files that need to be uploaded, including 12 different languages. Who's gonna do all of the files? Is it gonna be margotbean (talk) or Pathoschild (talk) (This is an example because they're both translators)? Also noticed that the Spoiler tag has updated, it now uses Rotten Plants instead of Jinxed, instead of warning just Mobile Players, it is now warning all Players, just so I point this out because it is gonna be a big day for the Wiki for the release of v1.6. 9000 (talk) 08:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Fertilizer

I'm glad I found an acceptable edit for my recent findings about Deluxe Retaining Soil. Since then, I've continued some investigations and think I may have more to distribute across various articles on the subject, but I'm not likely to find a way to make those edits that wouldn't be disruptive in the context of the v1.6 release, so I will be holding off. I also need to formulate just what it is I ought to say, so I have no material to look at right away. And I hear that v1.6 may be close? So, just a heads up that something's pending with me, and it might affect structures within somewhat (not sure). I do find there's not much said about fallow but tillable soil, and that whole subject does have implications for fertilizer, so I've got to look around and find where that belongs. All the best for v1.6! Giles (talk) 20:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! You may find that I'm so frazzled, I don't care what you change... (Don't tell anyone, though!)
I don't know how close v1.6 is, there are a fair few bugs to be fixed, but when it's released you might find some things have changed with regard to fertilizer. The alpha change notes (Modding:Migrate to Stardew Valley 1.6#Vanilla release notes) already contain a change to tilled soil underneath seasonal Wild Seeds on Ginger Island, so if you're going to deal with those type of seeds, there may be even more changes with v1.6. You may find a bug specific to v1.6 as well, although I hope not.
Anyway, thanks again for the heads up. Please proceed with your project, and have fun! margotbean (talk) 23:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
And thanks for the v1.6 heads up, too. I think now that the best approach won't end up changing article structures much: perhaps a new section, once, mostly paragraphs and/or sentences. So that doesn't look too serious. "V1.6 close" is what I've been hearing since November, so I think I won't wait. Who knows when it will be, really? A Wild Seeds change sounds like a special case wrt the stuff I've been digging up - a detail, not a basic behavior. Should be a small change once it comes. Giles (talk) 00:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)