User talk:Margotbean/Archive 2023

Fish Ponds {{name}} template changes

Hello! I have tried to edit the Fish Ponds page to include the {{name}} template, however you have reverted this change multiple times because it has to be introduced in all languages at once. This is pretty simple to do if there is a database/page with all the items' translations or a translation module in itself. Could you direct me to one if such exists?

Alternatively, tell me if you think this change better not be made. Thanks

Artoftheblue (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello again, Artoftheblue! I wish there were a translation db or module, but there is none. Everything has to be done manually. I think the best solution for now is what you did -- create a page in your user space that's formatted the way you prefer. Happy New Year! margotbean (talk) 18:52, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Hmmmm... I might have a way to do this without a translation module actually as all the pages in other languages have the corresponding names in the same places of the table. Also, is there any other way to contact you/the wiki editors community, like through Discord or are user talks like this the go-to thing? Artoftheblue (talk) 11:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah okay so the main issue is that most languages don't have a page that is updated to version 1.5. I was able to successfully introduce the change in English, German, Russian and Korean, because those pages are updated already. The Chinese page is weird -- although it's updated the latest version, there are some grammar peculiarities that I can't yet understand. Regarding other languages I could either update them now in their current state to follow the format in their current version or someone could notify me when the information about newer features would be added to them and I'll update them then Artoftheblue (talk) 13:03, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Talk pages are definitely the thing to do to communicate about the wiki.

When I said "the best solution is ..." I was trying to delicately say it would be better if the change were not made. The name template prevents proper sorting in languages other than English, and I think it makes certain sections of the table less readable. So, I would prefer all languages to remain plain text. The page you created in your user space is just fine, please feel free to continue to edit/change it as you wish.

I'm sorry I wasn't more clear before, but I want to thank you for your efforts and understanding! margotbean (talk) 18:29, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Ah well okay then -- and gladly my work wasn't manual so it's not an issue Artoftheblue (talk) 00:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

I just had a look at the Chinese page and there are indeed many grammar related questions (the translation is incomplete). But I still would like to know what "some grammar peculiarities" are? Sizau (talk) 22:24, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

If I'm wrong, then Artoftheblue can correct me, but I believe they meant that when using google translate to read Chinese text, the result is a kind of word salad. All the words are there, but in different places than in English. Sometimes there are extra words that don't make sense. It basically means we don't speak or understand the Chinese language, and have to rely on online translators, which don't do a spectacular job of translating. margotbean (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, just a quick notification that I opened up a thread on the Fish Pond discussion page about that. -- Charly (talk) 07:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Template for release note section intro?

Hi! Each release notes section has an intro in the form "Stardew Valley {version} for {platform} was released on {date}". That's duplicated for every version, which makes translation more tedious (and many wikis have patchy translations for it). What do you think of adding a template like {{release notes intro |Android |2023-01-10 |optional announcement link}} which would produce the translated text, so we could just copy the intro to each wiki as-is? —Pathoschild (talk) 16:48, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, I thought about this while I did my daily review of new changes to all the wikis today. My brutally honest thoughts, after some consideration:

• It would be a lot of work for you, and it's not strictly necessary
• The headings have been unified by a ZH editor in Chinese already, and that's the only language (other than English) that has had any activity by a native speaker in years (literally years)
• You would have to choose which translation is the best one, and I'm not aware that you speak all 12 languages (well, the 8 or so that have the page anyway)
• If a translator takes an interest in the page, there's a higher than 50% chance they won't understand what a template is, and will delete it, replacing it with plain text/links. Which means that I'll have to either put the template back, or adjust the template's translation to match what the native speaker typed. (More work for me)
• A text editor with find/replace can do the same job, and that would probably be what a translator would be more comfortable with (based on my experience).
• It would make sense to have the template used on all 3 version history pages (PC, Console, and Mobile), in all languages, so that's even more work (x36), and the PC version history page is kind of a mess in other languages from the hotfix template we created in English. (German still hasn't implemented it, but the page is translated, and I don't speak German, so... there it sits)

So, while I see where this idea came from, I just really don't want another template to translate and maintain. I know it seems like it would be less work in the end, but my experience says that it will actually be more work, and not a whole lot of payoff. margotbean (talk) 19:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Reformatting recipe tables to include translated headers?

Hello! I was taking a quick peek at the French version of the wiki and noticed a couple tables that had untranslated table headers for recipe tables, but they're just in wikitables sitting on the page, and I couldn't figure out how to get them to work nicely with the Recipes template :( A quick search for "Recipe Source" (on the fr wiki) should point toward the pages/tables in question, I'm just a bit stumped on how to contribute changes to those pages. e.g. on the (english) Oak Resin#Recipes

{{Recipes|header|hide=buff,duration,restores}}
{{:Deluxe Speed-Gro|RecipeRow/NoBuffsHealthEnergy}}
|-
|[[File:Keg.png|center]]
|[[Keg]]
|{{Description|Keg}}
|{{name|Wood|30}}{{name|Copper Bar|1}}{{name|Iron Bar|1}}{{name|Oak Resin|1}}
|class="no-wrap"|[[File:Farming Skill Icon.png|24px|link=]] [[Farming]] Level 8
|N/A
{{Recipes|footer}}

If I'm understanding this correctly, the Deluxe Speed-Gro's infobox information is getting transcluded into the recipe template/oak resin page?, but the Keg row was just information formatted as a wiki table row within the recipe template, so is fixing those French pages just a matter of doing the latter? If this question doesn't make any sense I can try to explain it, I'm just trying to avoid making any sweeping changes when I don't know what the existing precedent is for this kind of work --Hexadecimal (talk) 06:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I think you understand it correctly -- Deluxe Speed-Gro is being transcluded, and the rest is just wikitext added to the table.

I found only 6 pages that contain "Recipe Source", so it shouldn't be a huge project to translate the headers using simple wikitext. I had to find the pages with admin tools (the normal search gave too many false results), so I'll give you a list, for convenience:

• Aile de chauve-souris
• Fabrication
• Fragments d'os
• Marbre
• Minerai d'iridium
• Sirop d'érable

Again, please translate the headers using simple wikitext! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 19:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

User talk to Margotbean(from Killa)

Hello Margotbean! Thank you for acknowledging my edit. I'll explain the bug I encountered.

When I first entered the Forge from ninth floor, I acquired the prismatic shard from the rare chest there. Then I went to sleep and saved the game. However, after I reopened the game the next day and entered the forge from the quick entrance (the entrance that can get you from the start of the volcanic dungeon to the Forge), the rare chest is still there, remaining unopened. I figured out that if I saved the file and reload the game, then the chest will still remain unopened, giving me the opportunity to farm prismatic shards (and also for those who need one lol).

Then I finished the volcanic dungeon from 1st floor to 9th floor again, and when I entered the Forge from 9th floor the chest is no longer there. It seems to me now that if players opened the chest and finish the volcano dungeon again, with no reloading save files in the interval, then the chest will disappear. I wonder if this solves your question. With regards, Killa (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2023

Wow, Killa, yes, thanks for the explanation. I meant to test this over a week ago, and I've been so busy, it slipped through the cracks! I still haven't tested it for myself, but I've adjusted the explanation to include what you added here. Thank you so very much!! margotbean (talk) 02:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Artifact spot Golden Coconut edit

Hey there!

I edited the Artifact spot page and changed the amount of golden coconuts you can receive from an artifact spot from 1 to 1-3 as I myself had gotten 3 from one spot and noticed the discrepancy on the wiki. I'm happy to find and reference the code, however I'm not sure exactly how to get there and I've got no idea where to start if I was to google it. Just wondering if you were aware on how I'd be able to find the necessary code and reference the change? Thanks :)

Sillybugger3000 (talk) 08:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello! The answer to your question depends on your level of experience with computer code, I think. First, try decompiling the game code, and look at the methods referenced in the "References" section on the Artifact Spot page. #7 is the most appropriate place to start. If you can find digUpArtifactSpot, you'll see that an artifact spot should only produce one of item #791 (the Golden Coconut). (If you unpack the game files, you'll find the item ID for golden coconut in Data\ObjectInformation.xnb.)

If all of that works out, then you can start to try to find the source of the extra coconuts.

If all of that doesn't work out so well, then I have to put researching it on my "to do" list.

If you were using a hoe with the Archaeologist enchantment, that would explain one extra coconut, but not a third.

Please let me know how this goes. We want the wiki to be accurate! Thanks so much, margotbean (talk) 19:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Luck Page

Hello, I would ask you to reconsider your position on my addition of the "rocks calculation" to the Luck page.

Your reasoning is "The page doesn't need to make sense in general"

I do believe the purpose of this wiki is to inform the readers, and 99% of the Stardew community has no idea how Luck works, and is not helped by the page.

The most important and relevant instance of Luck is in the Mines. You can verify with a Google search or a Reddit search. When people see a good luck day on TV, they head to the mines. It's what most people know Luck for.

I believe you are doing the community a disservice by not having the formula for rocks and how luck affects it on the Luck page.

Even if that whole page was deleted, and only the one line of calculation was there, I believe it would be more helpful to a reader, that's how important I think it is.

Whether you want to reword it, or make a new page which the Luck page references, the luck formula for rocks should be known to the people. Amen.

1 question

Are you actually an admin because I have found multiple people who say they are but there really not I was just wondering you don't have to answer and if you do answer I want to check if your an admin by asking you who is the villager with orange hair and is female Kingpug100 (talk) 02:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Stardops being "steam-specific"

Hi, I'm new, just created an account to edit the Stardrop article, which incorrectly says that "Mystery Of The Stardrops" is "steam-specific" and it was reverted right away. I can't add external links here, but if you google "Mystery Of The Stardrops xbox achievement" or "Mystery Of The Stardrops playstation trophy" you can see that it exists on both platforms. -- unsigned comment by Cody (talk) 13:23, 14 February 2023

Hello Cody, I've answered your question on the Stardrop talk page. margotbean (talk) 19:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I found hidden shop at stardew valley fair!

I think it's not yet on the wiki. :O It sells star tokens for 50g per piece, the location is behind the tree beside alex's house. I attach twitter link to the screenshots i took. twitter.com/anggeryccount/status/1630246981640794115?t=YUvtxj_8QHdKPHsEEsTOgQ&s=19

There's also someone hidden u can talk to behind harvey clinic, but they are just saying "Please stand at the red arrow." Which is just the strength hammering game. So i think that's not really important. Ry (talk) 16:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh, wait i guess it has the same function as one of the stand available, never mind, then. Ry (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

The person behind Harvey's Clinic bug was removed in v1.5, but accessing the stand that sells star tokens is still a bug in v1.5. I'll report it on the forums so it can be fixed! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 17:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh, anyhow I play in Nintendo Switch. So who knows the Stardew on PC has been fixed! I understand that sometimes the port on switch kinda lagging behind in term of updates. Ry (talk) 13:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Caroline trivia

Hi Margotbean. I’m Howdoyoufindacheesetaco and I was the one who added the trivia about Caroline’s “Secret Walks”. I am aware it is in quotes, the reason I added it was because people normally don’t look at quotes and adding it in trivia would make people more aware of this.

Thanks.

Howdoyoufindacheesetaco, March 4, 2023 21:27

It's a reasonable thing to think, it's just that I disagree that the information needs to be on the page twice. I do, however, appreciate your efforts to make the wiki better. Happy farming to you! margotbean (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Something I Saw On Catalogs' Pages

Hello, as I look at Furniture Catalogue and Catalogue pages;

• In the second line in Furniture Catalogue, "right clicking" phrase is used with template:key.
• In the second line in Catalogue, "right clicking" phrase is used with a "right clicking mouse" image.

I just saw this difference and wanted to tell this, if this was a mistake or on purpose. Thank you! Peaw (talk) 14:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Peaw! It's a mistake. You can use the right-click image instead of Template:Key in Turkish, and if you want to change the English wiki, that would be a bonus. :) margotbean (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I fixed it in both wikis, thank you! Peaw (talk) 16:33, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Stardew Valley Helpers

Can you tell me if this app (at https://stardew.selbysaurus.me/) has gone defunct? Thanks! Giles (talk) 15:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

I sure hope not! At least, not forever. It's not working for me right now either, but I viewed it this past week and it was fine. 🤞 margotbean (talk) 16:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks much! I use it regularly also, and it went out about 24 hours ago. I've seen blips of a few hours before, but never this long. I just don't recognize the ".me" portion of the url, so I have no idea if it's hosted by an individual or by an organization - hence I don't know what to expect as regards responsiveness or long-term support. Giles (talk) 19:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Well, thanks to the wayback machine, I found that the source is still on github: https://github.com/rickselby/stardew-helpers/ (yay)

I always thought ".me" meant the site was hosted in Mexico. Probably not always true, but in any case, the source on github indicates that the site is meant to be active, and hopefully the server error will be resolved soon! margotbean (talk) 19:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Of course! Mexico! Thanks. It's back up. Giles (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Wahoo!! I'm really relieved. Someday when more pressing projects are finished, I'd like to overhaul the villagers' schedules, and that website will be a valuable resource in doing so. margotbean (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm probably not typical in what I notice in the wiki, but I'll be glad when the schedules project reaches the active stage. It's the single element of the wiki where I consistently find unreliable information, to my continuing disappointment. Earlier on, I tried observing and and carefully documenting what I found, only to have others who claimed to "read the code" replace it less helpful and sometimes incorrect stuff, and it just wasn't my game to track down introduced errors. I have also found that the segments of game code that others have put up for examination only includes timings for when characters *begin* to move from one location to another, never when they *arrive*. Especially in longer walks, those can both be important reference points. So whatever you're planning, I hope it will be more comprehensive than what a decoding can produce.

I also dislike the "deviations" technique of presentation. It just makes you have to look two places instead of one. A "deviation" isn't really that, it's just an overriding priority, so one prioritized list ought to work better.

Finally, I dislike the headings "before the community center is done" and the "after". Either a player is before or after that milestone. If a character consistently changes behavior after, that complete schedule should be split down the middle "before" and "after", even if some pieces match either way. Seasons are already split this way, and this is the other big piece of schedule (even bigger) that will help reduce complexity inside the detail portions. Otherwise, the lookup process is just a hassle or resolve clearly.

Didn't mean to go into such a treatise. I guess I'm more frustrated by schedules than I thought. I hope the thoughts may help with a new plan. I just don't have the energy for that level of cleanup any more. Giles (talk) 23:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

I definitely appreciate the feedback! I am frustrated by the state of villager schedules, and have been for about 6 years now. I agree, the "deviations" section is not the best way to present info; I'd like to get rid of it and integrate deviations into the main schedules.

Sometime in 2020 or so, I stalked Sebastian for several weeks (real time), because his schedule file is the most confusing. I found that his actual behavior deviated from the schedule file, because it took him longer to walk from his bedroom to the kitchen than expected. The schedule file assumed it took maybe 20 in-game minutes, when it took 30-40 (or something similar). Therefore, he reached the kitchen later, stayed for one 10-minute tick of the clock, then returned to his bedroom. I learned then that the schedule file is not the ultimate guide it ought to be.

Someday I will have all other more pressing projects done, and I'll be able to fix schedules. Someday... someday... someday... *sigh*

Again, I will take your comments into account. Thanks so much!! margotbean (talk) 02:00, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Alternatives

margotbean It seems you're trying to maintain "total editorial control" over the content here, as though this were official documentation (rather than community). Have you considered software specifically designed for that scenario, rather than wiki software? Where I work there is a ton of official documentation where we need to guarantee quality for the reader. Publication can be controlled Git, combined with DocFX (there are similar technologies as well). Given how you run things, I suspect this would make your life much, much, much easier and is a better fit for what you're trying to accomplish. The flow requires contributors to do a "pull request", whereupon it can be discussed/approved/rejected. You would no longer be on the hook to "react" to changes made in the visible articles, since the pull request requires your approval before any change is made. This is vital to maintain one's sanity. Seriously, I can't believe you actually watch the page all day and react to everything. Impressive and dedicated, yes, but if I'm being honest, it's quite stifling. I feel like I'm trying to contribute to "your" documentation project.

You could probably continue with the wiki approach if you really want to, but at the very least I would advise canonizing a lot of your opinions into the Help:Editing section, so that people know what to expect. For example, wikis typically need to repeat information in multiple pages for ease of reading, but you would prefer to have each fact presented only in a single article (presumably for maintainability/translation reasons), and this may be another sign this wiki may have graduated a public editing stage, and is instead more of an official docs site. I was also confused as to why we're not allowed to guide the player in any way. Seems inconsistent, as tons of pages on this site offer various "advice" and "tips" that help new players understand the thinking of a more seasoned player. Whatever the scope of the documentation (be it "fact dump" or "Helpful tips"), the intended scope should be explained somewhere. Canonizing those expectations fosters discussion on the guidelines. I'm sure some people want the "facts", other folks want help playing the game, or there may be other viewpoints that we don't know.

In any case, I'd never have expected to see such pushback on me cleaning up 5-year old articles that seem abandoned and uncared for. At least on the articles I'm editing, so far I am seeing very little community involvement, it just seems like you locking it down "because no one had a problem with it before". You're likely to push away your average wiki contributor this way, but I suspect that's intentional given the scope of expectations you want to maintain regarding the 12 languages. I appreciate the scope of this undertaking, but it is not really a wiki at this point, so I can't really fulfill any of my visions and there doesn't seem to be much community on the older pages either, so I'll probably try bringing the Fandom Stardew Wiki up to speed instead. Good luck!

I'm not margotbean, but your concern is entirely irrelevant. First, you can change your own according to your user page or build your own wiki to your vision and let the public decide which one is better, it's a philosophical talk which have relative right or wrong. Second, its common practice where editor have ruling right on the accepted writing guidelines. Either in newspaper, magazine, scientific journals or a wiki. I'm sure you're a troll since you dont even have user stamp. Xyrsis (talk) 13:49, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Changing Fried Egg Recipe

Hey! Sorry if I changed the text for the Fried Egg incorrectly! I didn't know how to change the text in the cute little boxes (like where you menioned its a starter recipe), only the written text in the paragraphs lol. Thank you for fixing the entire thing! JessieB3999 (talk) 18:05, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey JessieB! Thank you for finding a change that wasn't in the change notes (and that no one else noticed)! 😀 margotbean (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Well I found it by my sister and I making this little spreadsheet thing to race each other to perfection, and she said that getting that recipe should be worth some points (along with some others) and I brought up to her how I was pretty sure it was already known as part of a new file and so we looked on the wiki. It said when u upgrade the farmhouse but I was pretty sure I saw on it my unmodded switch (unlike my VERY molded pc lol) and I HAD to boot up a new save to see lol. I couldn't find any place on the site to report it so I made an account and threw it in there. I didn't expect it to be so complicated (to me) to change haha! Regardless, thank you! JessieB3999 (talk) 22:40, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

That is absolutely awesome! Thanks to both you and your sister for being competitive. 👍

If you ever have a question about how to edit something, you can always ask here on my talk page. I check in every day, unless I'm incapacitated by the flu. 😁 margotbean (talk) 04:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Shimmering Lights on regular Beach map

Since of our wiki saying that Panning is not possible at The Beach except when the Night Market map is loaded really bugs me because when we play we keep seeing Shimmering Lights at The Beach when the Night Market is not happening. Is this in the game code or not? Feel free to head over to the game code for research about Shimmering Light locations. 9000 (talk) 8:51, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

The game code checks for "not beach" before spawning shimmering lights. Perhaps you're using mods that change the game behavior. Otherwise, I can't explain it. margotbean (talk) 20:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Shane attending Night Market bug

Apparently in our wiki it says that there was a bug with Shane where he would attend the Night Market, which was patched, did this mean that Shane attended the Night Market every day it was around? Because he only attends it on Winter 15. Feel free to look through the Version History page to try to find this. It may be v1.4 or v1.5 that it was patched. 9000 (talk) 9:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

In the "History" section on both Shane's page and the Night Market page, it clearly states that there was a bug preventing him from attending the Night Market that was fixed in v1.4. margotbean (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Gift Log incorrection

Apparently in our wiki everything says Gifts as "Neutral" which makes sense, but apparently in the Gift Log, which you can access through selecting the heart button, then a Villager, If you've given any Neutral gifts, the wording in the gift log is "Normal Gifts" instead of "Neutral Gifts". This is incorrect in the wiki because everything says "Neutral" instead of "Normal". This is something that you should check in the game code for research about. 9000 (talk) 9:03, 19 April, 2023 (UTC)

Im new, and confused.

Hi! its me, User:Mortician Technician. Im new here, and I noticed that the Chicken page didn't include the Friendship aspect of having them. I made an account specifically for this, actually. And on account of me being new, I wasnt sure how to properly format the edit, and I apologize for this. However, how should I edit what I wrote, If edit it all. Or should I just leave it? Like I said, I apologie for being annoying, Im young and new to this, and just wanted to help. Thank you for helping me sort out my edit! Mortician Technician (talk) 18:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, welcome to the wiki! The problem with the edit was chiefly that it needs to be applied to all affected animals' pages, not just the chicken. So, if you're willing to add a section about animal care & friendship to all farm animals' pages, then we can discuss the specifics. Are you up for editing several pages? margotbean (talk) 19:21, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I definitely am up to do so, however with school and such I may not be online to do so as often as I should be. Thank you for Clarifying, I was rather confused. Mortician Technician (talk) 03:19, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, I could have written a note on your talk page to explain things a little more, so don't worry. To be honest, my mind is a bit blown that there isn't already an "Animal Care" section on the farm animals' pages. They may have been a bit neglected in this regard.

The good news is that once you have the section written, most of it can be copy/pasted to the other animals' pages with only a few changes. It might be a good idea to put it on your user page first, then tweak it until it's right. After that, copy/pasting will be easy. And don't neglect your studies to do it! :) margotbean (talk) 14:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank You!! Im definitely up to start working on creating new "care" sections for the animals, I will have to do some research though, due to the fact that I only have chickens right now. Once again, Thank you so much for you help, and I'll try to make sure I do it properly this time. I'll put the sections in my bio for revision. Have an amazing day! Mortician Technician (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh goodness! You only have chickens at this point in your game, and I'm encouraging you to look up spoilers before you can edit the wiki. I'm so sorry! The good news is that all farm animals basically work the same, so the spoiler part isn't really too spoilery. But, please take your time, and happy farming! margotbean (talk) 18:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh don't feel bad. Ive already spoiled most of it for myself haha. Thank you for your encouragement, it means a lot! Mortician Technician (talk)

Alright, I finished the rough draft. it was difficult, but, also kinda fun! if theres anything I need to edit or add/subtract, Im fully willing to do so! Thank you for this amazing opportunity and advice!Mortician Technician (talk) 22:05, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Trying to get 100 mil total for perfection scene and wondering if I can some stuff to the wiki

Long time no edit! It’s Stardude the dude who had a mini edit battle with you over the terraria stardrop crossover. Anyway I’m trying to get 100m for the perfection cutscene and am currently at 52m total, I’ve been using Crystalariums animals jelly fairy rose honey wine and statue dupe glitches, I’m wondering if you have any advice for this. And one more thing, wondering if I can add optimal money farm layout images to some pages, thanks! Stardude (talk) 10:02, 28 April 2023 (AEST)

Hello Stardude, nice to see you again. I'm afraid I don't have any advice for you. The Statue of Perfection duplication glitch is the biggest money maker I've found, and you're already using it. As for optimal money farm layout images: no. I'm sorry, but the things that make the most money are a subject of debate, and the wiki strives to be an objective resource. I do hope you're doing well, and good luck with the quest for perfection! margotbean (talk) 14:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and one more question would it be allowed if it was labeled and treated as a space efficient layout just to help some players that want to find a good layout? Stardude (Talk) 9:40, 1 May 2023 (AEST) or 22:49 30th April 2023

That's what the forums are for. margotbean (talk) 02:20, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Year 2 Egg Festival Dialogues

Hello. I thought about adding year 2 dialogues of Egg Festival to villagers' pages. Do you think I should do that? Peaw (talk) 18:37, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely! margotbean (talk) 15:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

P.S. Atravita was kind enough to provide a code reference for the even year dialogues, and confirmation that the Egg Festival is the only festival that has dialogue that changes from year to year. You can read the Egg Festival talk page before starting the project if you like. Thanks again, margotbean (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Margotbean, I would like to help with this project! But before I get started, I want you to confirm that the format is appropriate. For example, Abigail's:

Egg Festival

Odd-numbered year

“	“Searching for eggs is like going on a treasure hunt.”

Even-numbered year

“	“Do you think I'm too old to do the egg hunt?”

Yes (No effect on friendship.)

"Hmmph... you sound like my Mom!"

No (No effect on friendship.)

"Yeah, I guess so. If I'm still having fun, why stop?"

If married:

“	“Go away, we're adversaries until the egg hunt is over!”

Also, I will update these changes to the ZH wiki asap~

What do you think? Is there anything I need to improve? Please tell me! --Shirotsuki (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Looks perfect! I don't know what you're going to do in Chinese with the italic/oblique headings, but I'm pretty sure you have a plan for that already. ;)

Go for it! Thanks, margotbean (talk) 17:28, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

I think I'd just use the regular style~ ;P

Italics looks nicer, but they don't work in Chinese. :( --Shirotsuki (talk) 17:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Official wiki site (English) css broken

Carpediem (talk) 18:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC) 8 May 2023 (UTC) Hi there! Love this wiki guide and the massive work you all do to keep it updated! Thank you! Use it with every game play. It appears to be broken now for non-members. Posts on r/StardewValley are piling up. Thank you. runs off screaming wiki down! wiki down!

Hello Carpediem! We are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. Are you seeing the problem while logged in? If not, for now that is the workaround -- create an account and login. The problem seems to affect only users who are not logged in. Hopefully this will be fixed shortly! margotbean (talk) 18:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for the speedy response, it appears to be fixed for non-members. Creating an account did fix it for me.Carpediem (talk) 20:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Leo's "likes"

hi Margotbean, regarding my reverted edit today on Leo's "likes", here's how i read it:

• original: "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Life Elixir, Mead, Pale Ale, Pickles, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Bread, Fried Egg, Poi, Mango Sticky Rice, & Triple Shot Espresso)"
• rephrased: "He likes everything, EXCEPT for cooking which he doesn't like, EXCEPT for espresso which he does like"

...and that's incorrect, he doesn't like espresso, he hates it. the only thing in the list of "exceptions to not liking cooking" that he likes is mango sticky rice. i think my original edit was correct? Cooperka (talk) 16:12, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, all villagers' pages are written the same way; that is, an exception to an exception means we don't know how they feel about the item, just that it's an exception to the rule. So, Leo doesn't necessarily like any of the listed cooked dishes, it's just that they don't follow the rule that "Leo doesn't like cooking". Basically it means "do more research before gifting these items". I know it can be a mind-bender. margotbean (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

it makes sense that a regular exception means "we don't know how they feel, so do more research before gifting", but an exception to an exception should mean something different than that, shouldn't it? i looked through every villager page and i'd like to hear your thoughts on the list below. there are only a few villagers who have double-negated entries, and most of the entries are written "correctly" from my perspective, with only a few exceptions in parentheticals below:

• Krobus - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes Seafoam Pudding (so no modification is needed here; his page is already correct from my perspective)
• Sebastian - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Coffee & Green Tea (so i think we should just remove Oil from the exceptions to not liking Artisan Goods because, as expected, he doesn't "like" Oil. Oil is not an exception to his "not liking Artisan Goods", it actually follows the rule, so there's no need to name it. otherwise, we would need to enumerate the entire set of Artisan Goods -- for example, why isn't Honey listed there too?)
• Jas - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Honey & Jelly (so i think we should remove Oil)
• Vincent - universal likes except Artisan Goods, but still likes Honey & Jelly (so i think we should remove Oil)
• Linus - universal likes except Gems, but still likes Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard)
• Pierre - universal likes except Gems, but still likes Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard)
• Leo - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes Mango Sticky Rice (so i think we should remove Bread, Fried Egg, Poi, & Triple Shot Espresso)
• Willy - universal likes except Cooking, but still likes quite a few cooked dishes that are listed explicitly in his table (so i think we should remove the sentence about being neutral to some cooked dishes, because that's redundant information and is already listed in the "neutral" section)
• Leah - universal likes except Foraged Minerals and Gems, but still likes Earth Crystal and Diamond (so i think we should remove Prismatic Shard). beautifully formatted list, i would love to format all double-negations this way for readability, if you think it's appropriate.

so, of the 9 pages that include double-negative items, 12 of the double-negatives are already "correct" from my perspective, and only 10 should be removed; it's a fairly minor cleanup. does this help clarify what i mean? Cooperka (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I think they're already written correctly in all 12 languages. What you're proposing might make sense to you, but it wouldn't be correct. Perhaps using List of All Gifts would be more helpful for you to use during gameplay? margotbean (talk) 23:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the link. I can sense that I'm bothering you, so let me cut to a simpler question to resolve this because I'm just looking for an explanation. Bread is a universal Neutral; Leo is Neutral to Bread; Leo Dislikes most Cooking except for a few things including Bread, and the List of All Gifts describes this perfectly for Leo; but Leo's "Likes" section explains that he does not Like Cooking, and Bread is an exception to his not Liking Cooking. If you can help me understand why Bread belongs here even though he doesn't Like it, that's all I'm trying to understand. Nothing about Bread is unusual for Leo, it's a universal Neutral, yet it's explicitly called out in his Likes. Why? Cooperka (talk) 14:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

It's because bread is an exception to "All cooking". Again, if you're thinking that Leo doesn't like bread, you must do more research to see how he feels about it. What the page says is that it's an exception to his not liking "All cooking". That's it, that's the answer. It's an exception to "all cooking".

It ends up being that a double negative cancels out, and Leo doesn't like Bread, or, I should say, he's neutral towards it. But I only know that because I've checked universal gifts first, and Leo's other gifting sections. I know the gifting sections are confusing, but I don't know how I can explain it in a different way. Really, my point is that they're all written the same way, in 12 languages, and they're all equally confusing/clear. margotbean (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

You're saying that Bread is an exception to Leo "not Liking All cooking", but that's clearly false, because he doesn't Like Bread. I give up lol. Cooperka (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Amount of Truffles Pigs create within Daily Luck

Since we are trying to get a Gold Clock to get Perfection, we always feel upset about how many Truffles Pigs create in a day. We always think that the amount of Truffles Pigs create in a day depends on Daily Luck. Every day that says "Very happy today", "Good humour today", or the +0.02 Luck from "Neutral" days, we usually get about 4-8 Truffles. Every day that says "Very displeased today", "Somewhat annoyed / mildly perturbed today", or the -0.02 Luck from "Neutral" days, we usually get about 1-3 Truffles. Is it random on the amount of Truffles Pigs create in a day or is it like on-screen frames while we're on our Farm? We need you to check out the game code for Truffle spawn rates. 9000 (talk) 8:39, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

No dependency on luck or daily luck, lol. (see FarmAnimal.findTruffle). No dependency on whether or not the farmer is around to see it. Atravita (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

OK on the job. 9000 (talk) 7:19, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Something I Encountered on Slimes

Hello! I was reading the Slimes page and in this part, it says "Special Dark Green Slime", but the slime is yellow and even its file says "Yellow Slime". Was this on purpose or a mistake? Peaw (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

In the game code, there's no "yellow slime", they're all variations of green slimes. So, the title of the image (uploaded in 2016) describes the appearance without delving into the game code. The understanding that yellow slimes are actually green slimes came after the image was uploaded.

I could change the name of the image, but it would be much more trouble than it's worth (12 languages, waiting for the server cache to update the image on the wiki...)

Hope this helps! margotbean (talk) 19:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah okay. Do you think I should use "green" or "yellow" for it then, even though it's actually just a recolored green slime? Sorry if I misunderstood. Peaw (talk) 20:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

I think you understood what I wrote. The special slime is called a "green" slime on the page, and the rest are called "yellow" slimes, so I would do the same thing in Turkish. If the English page is updated by someone more familiar with the game code than me, then I will update the Turkish page (or request that you or Syammu update it). 😀😉 Thanks for being so thorough, and taking care of the wiki! margotbean (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! Peaw (talk) 17:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Quality and Dying?

Hello again! I got some clothes I wanted to colour, and I was wondering if the quality of the item used in the sewing machine effects the vibrancy of the colour produced. I dunno, you just seemed like a good person to ask. Thank you! (btw, im out of school for the sumer, so I will simultanoiusly both always and never seem to be on) Mortician Technician (talk) 23:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Quality does not affect the dye at all, not its strength or brightness or any other aspect of it. I'll check the page and add a note if it doesn't already say that. Congrats on finishing another year! margotbean (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Something I Encountered on Wilderness Golem

Hello! I was translating the Wilderness Golem page and saw that "Iridium Ore (%1)" was written twice in its drop table. Was this a mistake or on purpose to mean something like (1% + 1%)? Peaw (talk) 12:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

It means there's a 1% chance for it to drop one item and a 1% chance to drop another of the same item. The two events are independent of each other, so the percentages can't be combined. You'll see this on a lot of monsters' pages. It means the same thing in each case. margotbean (talk) 16:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Ooh okay. I understood, thanks! Have a nice day. 🙂 Peaw (talk) 17:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Cool, thank you! Same to you!! margotbean (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Unable to add external links

Hi, I'm quite new to the wiki and I'm not sure if this is the correct way to contact you, but today I installed SMAPI on my Laptop running NixOS and I thought it would be useful for others who maybe also run NixOS on how to install SMAPI, because it has a few catches. I tried to edit the Modding:Installing SMAPI on Linux page, but after i finished my edits, they were declined and an error popped up:

Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Adding external links

So I think my action was constructive and therefore want to inform you what I was trying to do. I added an external link to the NixOS page and another one to the script (steam-run) needed to run the SMAPI installer. Mariechen (talk) 19:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Mariechen! I've pushed the edit through for you. If you have any other issues, please let me know. margotbean (talk) 19:31, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much :) Mariechen (talk) 21:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Children

How long did it take you for your spouse to ask for a baby? Also did you need the cellar for them to ask? Aepace000 (talk) 00:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of Iridium

If someone types Iridium into the search bar, they're almost certainly looking for either the ore or the bar. If I search for Iridium, the 2 highest results are the axe and the bat. The bar is third through a redirect, but the ore is pretty far down. The search results does list all the pages which is good, but this can also be done with Special:PrefixIndex/Iridium. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 00:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Something I Encountered on Some Pages

Hello. I was translating the J. Cola Light, Little Photos, and Skull Poster pages and noticed that they had no history! I didn't know how to find informations about it, can you do it if you have information? Thank you, have a nice day! Peaw (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Peaw! Thanks for pointing out the missing info! I've added a "History" section to those pages now. (All 3 were introduced in v1.0 of the game). Thanks again for keeping such good care of the wiki! margotbean (talk) 22:47, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Bug for giving Gifts to Villagers

Since of giving Gifts to Villagers, there was a bug where when you gave somebody a Gift, it ended up saying "You've already given Villager a gift today." when you actually haven't, it also took the item that you tried giving the Villager and it also played the sound effect for giving a Gift, instead of the dialogue typing sound, if you talked to them again, they would say what they where supposed to say to the Gift. Here is Penny as an example:

Love: "Thank you! I really love this!" Like: "Thank you! This looks special." Neutral (Says "Normal" in Gift Log): "Thanks. This looks nice." Dislike: "Uh, it's for me? ...Thanks." Hate: "Ugh...I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this."

We should get some lads over to the Version History page to try to find this bug. It could be v1.4 or v1.5. 9000 (talk) 9:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I have never seen this reported to me (either 1.4 or 1.5), I would like to see video proof, and you yourself can be one of the "lads" tracking this down. Atravita (talk) 12:45, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

New Page

Hey MargotBean, Stardude here. I just have a small suggestion, it’s hard to search for glitches on the wiki, so why don’t you guys/girls/other add a glitches/bugs page, it would list the current known glitches in the game without the struggle of scouring the Internet to find them. Stardude (talk) 4:15 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you asking for: Category:Pages which document bugs?--Shirotsuki (talk) 14:33, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes I am, but not like a category, but just a one off page containing bugs. Stardude (talk) 23:22 13 June 2023 (UTC)

This has been suggested before, but the page size would be huge, and it would be incredibly time-consuming to maintain, if even possible. margotbean (talk) 16:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

The Bug That Wasn't

Just to let you know, I had another oddity occur today, and may have uncovered the source of all the happenings. I seem to have missed a Steam client update earlier. After installing it, today's new oddity does not recur. I'd lay odds that was also behind the Special Order problem I had yesterday. Giles (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh, Steam, I have a love/hate (mostly hate) relationship with Steam...

I'm very glad to hear the weirdness is gone! I was completely stumped as to what might have caused those issues. 🙂 margotbean (talk) 19:34, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Mouse glitch

Hey margotbean! Whenever I play stardew on pc I can’t move my mouse to the right side of the screen, I see that my actual mouse hits the screen border and am wondering if you know how to solve it thanks! stardude (talk) 2:22, June 26 2023 UTC

I really don't, sorry margotbean (talk) 17:40, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

I knew how to do it but i couldn’t really, after I got your response, searched Google for 2 mins and found out, stardude (talk) 2:38, June 17 UTC Now all I need to do is figure out which of the 100 possible problems I have that makes smapi not respond. stardude (talk) 23:16, June 27 2023 UTC

this is such a common issue and it’s hard to find results and forums are piled with unanswered issues, so I’m going to make a change to the page that has the Computor mouse in it and address the issue and make a redirect page for it, feel free to edit it since you’re a mod and know how to minimise the amount of storage it takes up. stardude (talk) 23:25 July 17 UTC/9:26 July 18 AEST (when I typed this it advanced a minute lol)

The wiki isn't for game tech issues, I'm sorry. You can ask a moderator to pin a post with a solution in the forums, if it seems to work for a lot of people. margotbean (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Ok I will do. Stardude 23:22 UTC Wait how do I check moderators in the forums? And one last question, what happens if I go into plain stardew using a save file that used mods, Will it corrupt it? Stardude (talk) 23:39 20 July (UTC)

V 1.5.6 Updated Pathing

Hi Margotbean, I ran a perfection playthrough to update the routing images since the ones on here are only for V 1.4, however I'm not someone that knows how to format or code and don't want to break the wiki. I was wondering if there was a way I could get assistance adding the pictures in a new section underneath the 1.4 images? I don't want to replace them since people still run older versions, just wanted to contribute with Leo/Ginger Island/shortcuts added in. (If this is the right place for assistance I can link my Reddit post where I have the photos and description of the run and possible issues there may be with the pathing)

Mookie112 (talk) 03:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello Mookie! New users cannot post external links, but if you leave me a message containing everything after https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley I can find the post and take a look. If there are v1.5 images, the existing images should be updated. The older versions can always be found by clicking on the image, which takes you to the file page, where all versions are kept. But I'll know more after I see what we're talking about. Thanks! margotbean (talk) 18:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Here is the rest of the url for my post - /comments/14kmsja/v_156_updated_routes/

Mookie112 (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Mookie! I've taken a look, and I think we need to update some images and link to the reddit post. I will try to add some Ginger Island images, and see how it looks... the section is fairly large already; maybe there is another solution. (Change to gallery format, and make the link to the rest of the images more prominent, maybe.)

We should probably keep the link to the v1.4 images, since they include the interiors of villagers' homes (if for no other reason).

Give me some time to work out the details. (I also have some concerns about the recent reddit protest, and don't want the post to become impossible to see, once we've added the link on the wiki.)

Please be patient, and THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing this!!!! margotbean (talk) 19:22, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

OK, I've been comparing the 1.4 and 1.5 images. There are some updates to be made! Unfortunately, I cannot download the full size images from reddit in .png format, only .webp format, and I cannot upload .webp images to the wiki.

Also, the Pelican Town image seems to be missing Shane's path to work, before the movie theater is built. I would like to upload the Bus Stop and Mountain images today, but the .webp format is a problem. What I can do is add a link to the reddit post, so at least that will be on the page. If you would consider moving the entire image gallery to imgur.com, I could download .png format (or .jpg if the file size is really large). It's your choice. For now, I will add the link to the updated images. Thank you again, please let me know if you're interested in using imgur! margotbean (talk) 19:04, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

I've uploaded them to Imgur, here is the back end of the URL for them! /gallery/6hfxKdz

Mookie112 (talk) 22:26, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I can download them now! Give me a little more time, today is a national holiday, and I want to compare the 1.4 and 1.5 images to make sure we didn't miss anything. Thanks again again!! margotbean (talk) 18:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Connection issues

SaikouDonut (talk) 08:24, 8 July 2023 (UTC) Hello uhm, im new to this game and ive been trying to play with my gf through online multiplayer and we've tried every possible fix videos and stuffs online. We always get the errror " Connection Failed ", Is there any way to fix this? p.s I bought this game to play with her

I'm sorry, this isn't my area of expertise. I think you'd have better luck trying the forums or discord instead. Good luck! margotbean (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Quality of Fish always being Basic Quality

Since our lads were playing tonight, when the lads did Fishing in the Calico Desert, Pirate Cove at Ginger Island, River at Dig Site at Ginger Island, or Fishing Submarine at the Night Market, every Fish we caught was a Basic Quality Fish, It didn't matter if the catch was "Perfect!" just Basic Quality. Does this mean that Silver, Gold, and Iridium, Fish like Sandfish, Stingrays, Blobfish, Midnight Squids, and Spook Fish, are impossible to get? Because this Wiki says every Quality of Fish, We are so confused, it didn't matter what type of Fishing Rod was used, just Basic Quality Fish, Head over to the game code for Fish Quality. 9000 (talk) 8:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

It is possible to get all fish in iridium quality.

Here's the code you asked for: Fishing#Fish Size & Quality. It explains how fishing zones and fishing levels affect fish quality. Also, the places you mentioned has shallower fishing zones. So, check your lads' fishing zone and fishing level, and pay attention to them while fishing. --Shirotsuki (talk) 14:08, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Sturdy Ring on Minerals Page for Earth Crystal

If you go to the Minerals page, you can see the Sturdy Ring is in the 'Used In' column for the Earth Crystal. The Earth Crystal was taken out of the crafting recipe in update 1.4 as seen on the Sturdy Rings page under History. Cal (talk) 08:28, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting this error, I've fixed it in all languages! margotbean (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Secret heart

I saw in the modding of items and objects that 930 has a heart symbol, and I was surprised because I had never seen it before, and to see what it was, I put the name of the chicken I bought from Marnie [930] and I saw a strange sound played But nothing happened. Alyasinsalehi7 (talk) 13:04, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

It's just part of the Qi's Hungry Challenge special order. When that's active, big slimes in the skull cavern might have hearts in them that will heal you if you kill them. Atravita (talk) 14:02, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Leo schedule

Deviation schedule on 23rd "when you have less than 6 hearts with both Penny and Sam"

This is not how it's behaving. He is doing this deviation schedule at greater than 6 hearts with Penny and Sam. Is it the other way around, greater than instead? IAmNotARook (talk) 22:39, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Or maybe it should be Penny OR Sam. I don't have the game code, nor mods installed to test and confirm. IAmNotARook (talk) 22:43, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

I understand, your game is not following what the wiki says. The 2nd entry in Leo's mainland schedule is "23": "NOT friendship Sam 6 Penny 6/GOTO spring", so it's fairly clear what he should be doing. You could report the odd behavior as a bug on the official forums, if you like. margotbean (talk) 01:23, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Milk and egg products

Hey margotbean, sorry if it’s getting annoying but I noticed it says an overall score of 1200 will guarantee a large product in Large eggs and milk, and that might be confusing to new players, so should we have it be “or a total calculation above 1”? Fri 4 aug 9:43 (AEST) Stardude

I think they'd still have to read the entire section to understand what it means, so I'm not sure it would be more clear. margotbean (talk) 18:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Dungeon Floors

Hi Margotbean. I made an edit to the descriptions that state the Quarry has to be unlocked for the Dungeon Floors to appear in the regular mines making it to read that the [Quarry Mines] would need to be unlocked for these floors to appear in the regular mines. My edit was reversed, but is actually fact. These dungeon floors will NOT appear in the regular mines if that Quarry Mine has not been unlocked. I know this from playing the game across many save files and experimenting with this. I purposely do not unlock the Quarry Mines and never get those dungeon floors. If I do go into the Quarry Mines and unlock it then those floors do randomly appear in my regular mines. I do unlock the actual Quarry area on every save, just not that mine that is called the Quarry Mine. The Quarry area only needs to be unlocked to gain access to that Mine, but the Mine has to be unlocked to get those dungeon floors added in the regular mines. Thank you. Carpediem (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Carpediem! I've looked in the code and found that you are correct. Please accept my apologies for not keeping up-to-date with all the changes! I'll revert my reversion and add a code reference. Thank you! margotbean (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Children Stages

Hi Margotbean. Regarding the wiki Children page / Stages, I added to the Stage 2 area that the interaction of tossing the stage 2 child while sleeping (that created a spinning caterpillar effect) was actually removed in version 1.4, this based on information I had found on the SDV reddit and based on my own game play. I remember being able to do this but it hasn't been possible since 1.4, if you want to look into adding a code for it. [Stage 2 14 days long. When interacting with the child, the player will toss them into the air, which improves the relationship level. Tossing the child while sleeping for a humorous animation was removed in v1.4]. Thankyou, Carpediem (talk) 21:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that, I've been trying to research it in the game code for about 3 hours. Since I don't have the decompiled v1.3 code, it's been a little tricky. 😏 I have seen the animation in-game however, and I can see that it no longer exists in v1.5. I'm going to add a note to the "History" section of Children and remove the entry under "Stage 2" altogether. Thanks! margotbean (talk) 22:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Adding new topic

Margotbean, I tried to add a topic here to let you know about an issue, but I got an error instead. "Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Mass edit by new user."

Please let me know what I can do to send the info to you. Thanks, Meredith Rogue.toast (talk) 09:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Meredith! I'm sorry you had trouble adding info to the wiki, it was the anti-vandalism mechanisms in place. I can see the text of the message you tried to send me. I'll do my best to add it to the page exactly as you wrote it. margotbean (talk) 15:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Margotbean! No need to apologize; I understand the need for new users to have controls. I saw you made the changes to the page and added my full msg to the talk page. That was very nice of you! I appreciate the help and thank both you and Atra for providing greater expertise than I could offer. Best, Meredith Rogue.toast (talk) 01:55, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

No History on Rusty Sword

Hello Margotbean! I've noticed that Rusty Sword doesn't have a history. I didn't want to add myself as I don't know about histories! Thank you! Peaw (talk) 11:02, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Peaw! Thank you for updating all languages with the correct name for the Ossified Blade in TR!!!! As for page history, it's pretty safe to assume that if there is no history section, the item was introduced in v1.0. You can add a history section to those pages if you like, any time. margotbean (talk) 14:31, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Updated Modding:Player Guide/Getting Started - Modgroup instructions for Mac users

Hi, Margotbean,

I tried to edit the table in the "Can I Have Different Mod Groups" section, but received an error that I was adding external links. I didn't add any new links, I was only updating the text instructions. The current instructions are incorrect. Querying established members of the SDV Discord, I learned that the mod group command for Mac users "didn't work."

I was able to successfully create multiple mod groups on my Mac, so I thought an edit to the Wiki would be helpful.

I can't add my attempted edits here as I receive the same error for external links. ;)

Thanks, Meredith Rogue.toast (talk) 18:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Archived discussions

I was looking at archived discussions and I saw this: Admins rights abusing and I’m wondering what was happening, it’s ok if it’s confidential or anything, just seems very interesting and, (it took me a bit to think of this word) peculiar. Stardude (Stardude) 00:19 Thursday 24 August (UTC)

Hey Margot, not sure if u didn’t see this or are not comfortable answering but I would appreciate if u let me know about whether or not ur comfortable talking about the archived discussions. Stardude (Stardude) 22:43 Tuesday 29 August (UTC)

I appreciate your concern, if that's what you're expressing, but I have no comment. I'll be happy to answer any other wiki content related questions you have. margotbean (talk) 09:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Wallet Navbox

Hello Margotbean! I thought of a navbox for Wallet items. What do you think? I can create one right away if you also approve. Thank you! Peaw (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC) Maybe I should have posted this on Admin Noticeboard? I'm not really sure.

There are so few discussions about templates, anywhere is fine. Here on my talk page is good. 👍

It's funny, I was just looking at Category:Special items a couple of days ago and thinking "Should I make a navbox for these?" The problem is, if we break "special items" up into sub-categories (like "wallet items"), then we have to change the category on the page, and I can't accurately translate "Wallet items" in all 12 languages. If we made a "Special Items" navbox, then the category could stay the same, but clicking on "Category:Special items" accomplishes the same goal.

So, translating the categories is the problem with making a navbox. If you just make a "Wallet items" navbox, then the category has to be "Wallet items" for all those items' pages, and it has to be translated in 12 languages. It would be nice to do in only English & Turkish, but I can't do that. I'm desperately trying to keep all 12 language wikis somewhat the same. It's a losing battle, but I have to keep trying.

I'm open to any solutions you have! And, as always, I admire your energy and commitment to making the wiki better. It's truly impressive! margotbean (talk) 11:11, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I think you are right then. Clicking on the category name - clicking on the navbox, same things! I also didn't think about wallet items being a "Special item" and we would have to create a Special items navbox, instead of just wallet items navbox. Thank you for answering! Peaw (talk) 11:44, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Stardew Valley Fair

Look, I get the wording I added wasn't perfect, but the way it is currently suggests that the fortune-teller booth can only be interacted with once per save file. Any ideas as to a way to clarify this? Quartia (talk) 18:22, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

I would ask what makes you think the fortune teller is different from any of the other attractions in the list? Each can be played or interacted with each year. There's nothing to indicate the fortune teller is any different. margotbean (talk) 18:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

I added "this year" to the description. I think this is a good way to clarify your question with minimal intrusion. IBugOne (talk) 18:42, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I see, it's the "Go away, kid" part that's the issue. Well, the other attractions don't do that, do they? Thanks for the clarification! margotbean (talk) 18:46, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

That's exactly why I thought that, yes. This is a perfect solution, clarifies without making the wording any worse.. Quartia (talk) 19:55, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Trivia

How do you add a trivia/bug section to a page? There are some things that I notice and can't add DragonGwen (talk) 16:40, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello DragonGwen! I did some experimenting, and the easiest thing is to switch to "Desktop" view first. It's not so easy to add a section using mobile view. The link is at the very bottom of the page.

After that, "Edit" the page using the link at the top right, then type ==Trivia== to create the section. Add your text, then click the "Show preview" button at the bottom. Once you're satisfied with your edits, click the "Save changes" button.

After that, you can click the link at the very bottom of the page to go back to "Mobile" view, if you like. Hope this helps! margotbean (talk) 14:29, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Artisan sell prices for Juice, Wine, and Roe

Hey, I've been intending to edit Template:Infobox to make the Artisan prices for Wine, Juice, and Aged Roe display prices relative to the base Fruit / Vegetable / Roe price instead of the somewhat redundant (1.4 × Base [Item] Price) they use currently, simplifying the calculation a bit.

Would that be okay, or is that one of these changes I should hold off on? - Starfarmer (talk) 18:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Because the change would require cascading changes to a very large template in 12 languages, and it's based on a personal preference, that would be one of those changes that I must say no to. margotbean (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The change itself is only 3 lines, I could manually implement it in other language versions myself if necessary. - Starfarmer (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

As I said above, it's also based on personal preference, so "no". I'm sorry. margotbean (talk) 19:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand, is it not better to reduce the amount of required calculations on the user's part? - Starfarmer (talk) 20:46, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The game multiplies the value of the finished product by 1.4 for all artisan goods, and the wiki reflects that. It's more helpful to understand how the game works under the hood than to do simple arithmetic that could actually be considered misleading to some folks. You're actually talking me into changing the Aged Roe page now... margotbean (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Isn't that already indicated by "Artisan (+40%)" right on top? That's why I said listing the price as "1.4 ×" feels redundant, that is already communicated by the +40% right above it. - Starfarmer (talk) 21:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Qi's Walnut Room

I guess I don't know how to make clear whatever you're asking, for I can only accomplish this by the one way I described it. Giles (talk) 18:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

It's still there, isn't it? I simply added that you can also wait to re-enter the building to purchase one Junimo Chest at a time, and that immediately leaving and re-entering is one possibility, but players can also wait if they want to. They don't have to immediately leave and re-enter to purchase one at a time. Are you unsatisfied with how it reads now? margotbean (talk) 19:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't notified when your reply came through, and just now saw it. No, not unsatisfied then. Surprised that waiting is supposed to do the trick. I've tried that not long in the past, waiting for a hour's game time, and that wasn't sufficient to get the purchase list to update. No idea why. I just decided then to change my behavior to something that would spring the trigger, and never looked back. Giles (talk) 23:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

If a mechanic involving a shop involves anything more than "close and reopen the shop" OR "sleep until next day", color me very confused. There isn't code for "leaving the map" or "waiting". Atravita (talk) 11:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Leo glitch

Hi Margotbean! It's DragonGwen again, anyway so I got Leo to move to the mainland and somehow whenever I talked to him in pelican town/the mountain while he was walking through he would split in two! The thing is after I got perfection it never happened! (I play on mobile) I was just wondering if you had ever saw that, and why it stopped DragonGwen (talk) 21:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello DragonGwen! I have no idea why that happened; I've seen it happen with modded NPCs, but never Leo. It wouldn't hurt to ask on the forums if anyone has experienced something similar. Good luck! margotbean (talk) 17:19, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Duplicating NPCs happen all the bloody time on mobile for some reason. Atravita (talk) 11:47, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks, Atravita! (Also thank you for your restraint in choice of language. 🤭) Unfortunately, some mobile bugs seem to be pesticide-resistant, but it never hurts to report it on the forums. The more people it affects, the more likely it is to be looked at, and fixed if it can be fixed. margotbean (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, mobile apparently just got a new update this week (we know because it broke Android SMAPI **again**) but I can't find the changelogs anywhere. :( Atravita (talk) 11:10, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I see that on the android site, the game says "updated Sept. 8 2023" but the game's version number didn't change. Maybe it's like a Steam client update. 😏 margotbean (talk) 16:39, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

This is a bit embarrassing but where are the forums? I have only used the wiki for a few months and i just got this account a few weeks ago DragonGwen (talk) 20:39, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Links are in the left sidebox in desktop view and, as far as I can tell, don't ever display in mobile view. Hmmm... This is something I was not aware of.

Well, the official forums are at https://forums.stardewvalley.net/ and there is a section called "Help & Bug Reports (Non-Modded)" under the "Support" section of the main page. That would be the best place to report this bug, even though it already resolved itself.

I'm very glad you weren't too embarrassed to ask! I didn't realize (or I forgot) that the links don't appear in mobile view, and that's a really important thing to know when trying to redesign the main page! So, thank you! margotbean (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Fish Pond icons

I do not understand, why was my edit to the Fish Pond article reverted? It was unequivocally an improvement, it improved the table's readability. - Starfarmer (talk)

The change has been discussed at length in the past and rejected. You must try to remember that changes made to the English wiki require cascading changes to 11 other language wikis. margotbean (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Why has it been rejected? It makes the table much more readable. "Other language versions will be outdated" is not a reason to stop updating and improving the English wiki. It simply means the other language versions will need to be updated later. - Starfarmer (talk) 18:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's not how it works. Changes which prevent proper alphabetical sorting in other languages are not good changes, and making things excessively difficult for other languages is not very nice. If you read Help:Editing, it may assist you in discussing large-scale changes before making them so as to avoid reversions like this one.

Please remember that you can create customized versions of pages in your user space, as opposed to changing the wiki for everyone. margotbean (talk) 18:22, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

How do they prevent alphabetical sorting? Don't file name match item names in other languages too? - Starfarmer (talk) 18:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

You could answer that question yourself, if you simply look at any page containing images in another language. margotbean (talk) 18:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Isn't that easily prevented by putting "data-sort-value" in front of every entry? - Starfarmer (talk) 19:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

That would be the solution, but I wouldn't describe a change to 60-70 fish x 12 languages x 2 tables (produce & quests) as "easy". Again I refer you to your user space, where you can create pages with the formatting you want, without causing literally thousands of cascading changes. margotbean (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Would you approve this change if it were implemented with "data-sort-value", and if I implemented it for other languages? - Starfarmer (talk) 16:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

No, as I said, you can create it in your user space. See User:Artoftheblue/Fish Pond for an example. margotbean (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

I still don't understand your reasoning behind this. Using "data-sort-value" and implementing the change in other language versions would address both of the arguments you made against it. And, given how frequently this change is made, it seems most of the community is in favor of it. - Starfarmer (talk) 13:54, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

I understand that you are in favor of it, but I am not. I've given you other options, please use them. margotbean (talk) 18:31, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Editing the Egg Festival

Hi Margotbean I'm Danimal I just wanted to say thanks for making the Egg Festival edit more accurate (I made the edit) I'm new at editing but me and my friends love stardew valley so we know a lot I'm very happy you fixed my mistake 😊 Danimal (talk) 19:15, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Well, thanks! But I'm just doing my job. Thanks for improving the wiki! margotbean (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Files used for user pages?

Hey there, I got this idea to decorate my user page in the same style as a character page from the wiki and i got this idea to make my own portrait. Am i allowed to upload this portrait to the wiki if it'll only be used on my user page? Is there something with storage restrictions? I totally get it if thats the case, just wanted to ask. P.S. I didn't really know where to ask, so i decided here. If there is a better place to ask these questions, where would that be? ~ Freya Krystallizd (talk) 19:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello Freya! Unfortunately, no, avatars can be used on discord, reddit, and the forums, but the wiki reserves images for game content. Sorry for the bad news. margotbean (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

As mentioned, i completely understand! Thanks for the help and the quick answer :) ~ Freya Krystallizd (talk) 20:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding edits to the saloon

Hi Margotbean is it ok if I add details to the Saloon page about the private room that alex takes you to on his tenth heart event Danimal (talk) 17:41, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

It would be good as a brief trivia item (with a link to Alex's 10-heart event), but otherwise the room isn't used and doesn't have any secrets, so I don't think there's a point to making the page longer with a lot of details. Even the Pinky Lemon statue has only one sentence.

Are you the one who asked me how to add a section on mobile? If so, it's not easy unless you temporarily switch to "Desktop" view (link at the very bottom of the page). Then you can add a "Trivia" section, and a sentence stating that Alex's 10-heart event takes place there, if you wish. Good luck! margotbean (talk) 17:51, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm not the one that asked you about adding a section on mobile but I was wondering about it so thanks 😊 I will try to add a Trivia section. Danimal (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I did it. if you need to make any changes please do Danimal (talk) 18:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

You successufully added a section, nice work! margotbean (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you 😄 Danimal (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding xp per day in crops section

Hi margotbean,nice to meet you. I've added xp per day to the crops section. I believe this is important if you want to level up your farming or foraging skills to access certain recipee faster (in my case, I need to get to level 6 farming to get quality sprinkler to automate my farm). I've added all explanation on the page and also inputting all xp per day valye. Interestingly, poppy flower became the fastest way to farm xp but only yield 5g/day. Blueberry attractiveness also severely affected since you only gained xp on first product in each harvest. If you want to check the calculation, feel free to go to the discussion page, I've addespreadsheet modification towards yours. Xyrsis (talk) 13:31, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Anyone else excited for the 1.6 update

Hi Margotbean it's danimal again I can't wait for the 1.6 update we'll have so many things to put on the wiki when it comes Danimal (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello danimal! Yes, it's very exciting! It doesn't strike fear into my very soul at all... 😂

(Actually, my memory says that there was very little I had to do for the v1.5 update, so many people pitched in, it was a wonderful experience. Let's go with that. Yeah, it's going to be great! 😁) margotbean (talk) 19:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I'll try to help as much as I can Danimal (talk) 19:49, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I will write down any new lines of dialogue I can! And if I find new features on mobile they're going in the wiki!!!!!(ever since I heard about it I have been like 😁😁😁😁) DragonGwen (talk) 06:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Do you own the game on PC? If so, unpacking the dialogue files and comparing them to the 1.5 files would be the best way of obtaining the new ("over 100+") lines of dialogue... and when the dialogues are triggered. If not, I'm sure we'll appreciate all the help we can get. 👍 margotbean (talk) 17:49, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I only play on PC when I use my uncle's account but I'm not really able to find the files, I will check to see if the dialogue is on the wiki and if it isn't I'll just add it DragonGwen (talk) 20:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

The info on migrating to 1.6

Hi Margot, quick question. How did we get the info we have for 1.6 vanilla notes and if we can make a page or topic about the unrevealed new content for those who aren’t old enough to use twitter. Stardude (talk) 23:13, 8th October 2023 (UTC)

The person rewriting the v1.5 game code is the same person who added the release notes to the wiki. The information posted to twitter is already on the main page. margotbean (talk) 02:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Really? I don’t see it? Could you be more specific?

It's in the sidebar, it might not be visible on mobile. Anyways, the "draft release notes" do not include what CA is adding, no. Atravita (talk) 16:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Once again I don’t see it. I’m using pc display since I’m using an iPad. And by sidebar do you mean the category redirects to the left?

It's on the right side, see:

Honestly, though, if you're looking for a place to discuss the update, try the subreddit or the discord. The wiki really isn't the place for it. Atravita (talk) 10:49, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Maybe we should add a part for it on mobile? Stardude (talk) 22:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello? Since it’s been like 5 weeks since I’ve asked, is there any way we put it on mobile? I use desktop view since I’m on IPad and it still doesn’t show up. 22:48, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

If it's not appearing, then you're not in "Desktop" view. There are links at the bottom of every page that allow you to switch between "Mobile view" and "Desktop". margotbean (talk) 03:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

I tried it on other devices using the desktop view, but it still doesn’t work Stardude (talk) 23:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Well, I'm able to see the problem using Google Chrome on desktop with the developer tools to simulate various mobile devices. I believe I have identified the problem in the stylesheet, but unfortunately, it affects more than just the column of v1.6 teasers, so I'm not going to be looking at improving it until after v1.6 is released.

Unless your device has a lock that prevents you from seeing Twitter posts without logging in, here are the links to teaser posts made by ConcernedApe, along with links to pages where I've archived the posts in the case that Twitter becomes a paid-only service:

• https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1715445788342620588 / archive link: https://archive.ph/vesep
• https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1710021649771434352 / archive link: https://archive.ph/nwJ5b
• https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1707155027914035542 / archive link: https://archive.ph/gHAsL
• https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1704950787972137466 / archive link: https://archive.ph/qrN9O
• https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1681081013538267138 / archive link: https://archive.ph/YOwhZ

You should be able to at least see the archive posts, if not the Twitter posts. At the moment, the archive website is not working, but I hope to see it back up and working soon. I hope this helps. margotbean (talk) 06:12, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Well, I’m using a school device, but I knew it didn’t work when I tried it on a home device but it still worked on my actually Computer, so yeah. Stardude (talk) 22:47 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding new website to resources

Hi there Margot, my name is Jack - I'm a developer and avid community member. Recently a friend and I developed stardew.app (can't link externally, but that's the website), which is an A-Z 100% perfection checklist tool. It allows users to upload their save files, manually update values, and login with Discord so their data is saved across platforms. It's not necessarily a competitor at all to Stardew Checkup but a more fully fledged checklist system for things that players might be missing. I initially created it because I couldn't find a comprehensive and easy to use spreadsheet as I played through my perfection run, so I decided to create one. The code is also completely open source on GitHub and deployed from the repository as a method of trust for our community. I've spent a lot of time building this tool with my friend and as someone who greatly benefits from it I'd really love it if it was shared officially as a resource on the wiki. We are listed as a third-party resource in the SDV official Discord, and they sent me here to ask you about getting it added to the home page. If you have any questions, my Discord username is @lafond. Thank you so much! Jlaf (talk) 18:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

While there's no room for it now, I'll keep it in mind for the future. In the meantime, there's a thread on the official forums dedicated to guides and resources. You should post a link there. Good luck! margotbean (talk) 18:53, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Math

I'm Han! Hi Han (talk) 18:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit problem

Um hey..... Listen, stuff purchased from Robins shop does not count for her special order, I tried to do that and it didn't work is it like a doesn't work on mobile thing cause if it is im sorry DragonGwen (talk) 14:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Please report the bug on the official forums so that it can be researched and fixed! I tested on PC, and purchased wood counted for the special order, so it may be a mobile-only bug. margotbean (talk) 17:25, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok DragonGwen (talk) 02:54, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

User pages

Hi! Abby13's page and talk page are in the main and talk namespaces: main, talk. IntricateSpiral (talk) 22:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! margotbean (talk) 00:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Stardew valley fair glitch

Me my dad and my sister were playing StardewValley we were at the stardew fair and on my screen only it showed my dad with the axe in his hand after him playing the strength game this glitch was on the Playstation has anyone else had this glitch?it was weird because when I went to buy star tokens and looked at his character he didn't have the axe in his hand anymore 🤨 Danimal (talk) 16:52, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

This is a question for the official forums, not my talk page! Thank you! margotbean (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Style guidelines

Hello again :) Thanks for fixing up my last edit. I noticed Friendship, Fiber Seeds, and Catfish were changed to be capitalized. In the spirit of reducing the work you or anyone else has to do when I edit the wiki, is there a Manual of Style or similar that details guidelines for capitalization and the like? IntricateSpiral (talk) 17:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

No official style guide as of yet. One thing to remember is that all similar pages should read the same, e.g., all random quests from the help wanted board across all pages. So, a change to one means a change to them all. As for capitalization, it tends to be a personal preference and is not currently standardized. My preference would be not to go out of one's way to un-capitalize items that are capitalized in-game (including seasons), even though they aren't proper nouns outside the game.

I do appreciate your desire to reduce my workload!! I hope this helps somewhat. margotbean (talk) 18:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Recent Linus Revisions

Hi Margotbean! I agree with your Relationship reversal, removing the blurb contained in his Zero Heart event, based on (Linus cutscene not really an indicator of relationship w/Gus). I would also question other changes such as "spends most of his time in and around his tent" since he spends most of his time outside the Spa in Fall and inside the Spa in Winter, but also travels to the west and southwest sides of the Lake during Spring and Summer. I wouldn't consider these areas exactly being around his tent and think the line was originally meant to just say he won't be at Ginger Island, requiring the schedules to be checked for other locations. Maybe "in the Mountain area" would be a better description? I also think North of Pelican Town near the Mines was a cleaner more precise way of stating his location (since most players learn early on where the Mines are located). Sometimes trying to elaborate can cause confusing information. Thanks for your diligence and hard work! Carpediem (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Well, thank you for the kind words! (Despite my copious typos and ability to slaughter edits with a mouse cursor that has started jumping around due to a hole in my tablecloth recently...)

A lot of the sections on villagers' pages date back to the days when Stardew was first released. Before anyone had unpacked the game files, no one knew anyone's exact schedule, and generalizations were more important. The section could be edited down, in my opinion. But the changes you suggest seem fine, especially given the supporting evidence you've cited. (Please let's not bring up Linus looking into the windows of the spa, though! Let's just not go there.) So, go ahead and seize the day. (Yes, I said that. I'm sorry.) margotbean (talk) 20:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Perfect! I was consulting with a fellow player how best to word any changes and hadn't had time to make them yet. Also, "generally considers himself" is much more appropriate than stating he is an outcast. He lives this way by choice, after all. As always, you made the best change. One might say you plucked it out nicely! :) Thank you! Carpediem (talk) 17:29, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Common Golden Scythe changes

I'm a long time player of the game, and as a frequent user of the wiki I can't help but notice certain pages tend to get edited more than others. The golden scythe being one of them. I didn't want to just immediately start making edits as a new account though, as I feel that would be overstepping. But I do have some input on it, as I believe (and have noticed) the edit in particular is due to a very common myth about this item. It does NOT actually have a wider range than the regular scythe. This fact is relatively easy to check, and I also recorded myself doing so for a bit and uploaded it to streamable. (unfortunately I can't place external links here, as I just found out trying to to add this topic) All things considered this is relatively unimportant distinction for the game as a whole, but 'what does the golden scythe do?' is a relatively common question both on the subreddit, and the discord. As such the information about it's range has become quite widespread and is difficult to combat due to the wiki's insistence that it's true. Given that you're the most recent edit to this page, and the prior edit had actually removed this information, I assume that you are someone who believes in its extended range. So I'm hoping that by showing you the video it might lean towards the page having the correct information more often than not given that you're one of the primary mods of the wiki as a whole. VinylScratch (talk) 02:25, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello! Please find it in the game code, and provide a code reference, and then we're in business. margotbean (talk) 05:48, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

The golden scythe has an additional area of effect of 2, btw. Data/weapons. Atravita (talk) 11:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

NPC quotes page missing quotes

It’s missing stuff like “Here’s a secret, Villager really loves Loved Gift Stardew Fan 33 (talk) 11:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Quotes are pulled from multiple data files, it's possible some were missed. That particular dialog, though, is common to all villagers, and is mentioned on the Friendship page instead, where it's more relevant. margotbean (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh ok. My bad. Also, I want to switch to PC soon, so is there an official way to transfer my year 6 farm from my switch to my PC? Stardew Fan 33 (talk) 00:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Missing npc from the list

You are currently missing the non giftable npc Marcello from the npc list Tuesday the twenty first of November 2023 From zud4eva

Hope you can fix this Zud4eva (talk) 00:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Marcello isn't enough of an NPC to warrant their own page. They show up in a cutscene and at the Movie Theater. They're more like scenery than an actual NPC. margotbean (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Slimes

Sorry you didn't like my structural changes, Margotbean. I didn't consider the re-leveling to be a major change, or I would have done differently. I also disagree with you that the old structure is fine. I attempted what I considered a light fix to make things clearer, but I find the organization to be confusing. Perhaps it's just that other sections need rewriting also, but it's hard to say. It's not always clear how what is being said applies to the variety of slimes involved. Be that as it may, it's probably best to let things lie until 1.6 is well under weigh. Perhaps any changes there will suggest something. Giles (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the understanding, Giles. I appreciate that you've been with the wiki almost as long as I have, and you've gained wisdom about the wiki that I value very much.

I can't properly express my level of stress about the upcoming changes. But, I think that after a major update, page reorganization would be much more appropriate. I'm thinking of the 11 other languages, and the changes needed there to catch up to the English wiki. After a major release, more editors will be active in the other languages, and more people to update the other wikis to match. Anyway, I do value your input and especially your understanding about this set of edits. XO, margotbean (talk) 19:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Only just now saw this. Sorry, I'm rather hit-and-miss about editing these days. Thanks for your reply and understanding also. I certainly don't want to be disruptive in such a high-intensity time. And I recognize and value your contributions here greatly. In addition to all the improvements and updates, you also preserve good work done in the past from all the different types of trolls. Good quality is always high maintenance. All the best to you in the 1.6 efforts! Juggling the languages has to be a monumental task! Wish I had a little insight into upcoming changes, but I have my own reasons for not having *any* presence on most social media platforms. X just doesn't work for me. Giles (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Abuse Filter on a talk pages

Hi, I wanted to suggest some changes for Module:GiftsByItem on its talk page but my edit was blocked by Abuse Filter and marked as "Mass edit by new user". Is it possible to contact to contact you about ideas for templates/modules on Discord/other social media? —BotAntony (talk) 05:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello Antony, all communication about the wiki can be done on the wiki itself. Please read Help:Editing, particularly the section about Template changes before you make any more edits. Please also note that discussion about Module:GiftsByItem should be made on Template talk:GiftsByItem, as it says on the module page.

Extension:Cargo cannot be used on multi-language wikis without enabling scary transclusion, and the extension will be removed with the next mediawiki update.

I appreciate your interest in module coding, but what the wiki needs is content editors who will be able to assist with the v1.6 game update. Thanks for your interest, and happy farming! margotbean (talk) 17:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I'm really sorry, I didn't notice that non-English wikis don't have this extension. Thank you for explaining why my edit was reverted.

I see templates here must support other languages but this wiki doesn't have its i18n system for templates. We can store l10n data on the separate page in JSON and load it via this module:

local p = {}

local l10nData
local lang = mw.string.lower(mw.getContentLanguage().code)

function p.l10n(frame)
    local args = frame:getParent().args -- 
    -- load data assigned to the template
    l10nData = mw.loadJsonData('Template:' .. args[1] .. '/l10n.json')
    -- use en l10n as a fallback
    local result = (l10nData[lang] and l10nData[lang][args[2]]) or (l10nData['en'] and l10nData['en'][args[2]]) or ''

    -- exclude the first and the second param for the text replacement (reserved for template name and l10n key)
    args[1], args[2] = nil, nil
    
    -- replace text
    -- f.e. if the result string is `It costs @price@` and we invoke template `{{l10n|<template>|<key>|@price@={{{price|400 g.}}}}}`
    -- it will be the equivalent of `It costs {{{price|400 g.}}}`
    for k, v in pairs(args) do
        result = result:gsub(k, v)
    end

    return result
end

-- the same as p.l10n(), but it preprocesses the output
-- use only in the case if the l10n entry has a template inside (f.e. `"key": "{{Name|@item_name@}}"`)
function p.l10n_preprocess(frame)
    return frame:preprocess(p.l10n(frame))
end

return p

This module (imo) could make l10n process a bit easier. —BotAntony (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Penny's page having something different

For some reason, Penny's page has the different quotes for what she can possibly say, like during Festivals, etc. And in Penny's page, for the quotes section, it has what Day of the week and Season the dialogue will show up, whereas the other Villager pages do not have this, I was originally planning to revert this edit, due to it being text that is non-existent in other Wikipedia pages, but should we revert this? It is text that is not in the other pages, and it is too much mess in the page. 9000 (talk) 8:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

This discussion belongs on Penny's talk page, not my talk page. But since you put it here, I'll answer it here this time.

Penny's dialogue has more detail than other villagers' quotes sections, but it's not incorrect. If you look in all the dialogue files, they include day of week, season, event, etc. So, other villagers pages should be improved to include the level of detail on Penny's page.

If you have suggestions for improving formatting, please put them on Penny's talk page. Thank you, margotbean (talk) 17:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Update: I've reverted this edit, due to 90% of the Villager pages not having this, I also noticed that Sandy's page has this as well, I am reverting this as well due to it not matching to other Villager pages, have I done something wrong when doing this or not? 9000 (talk) 5:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I have already answered your question above. margotbean (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Question: what's wrong with redundant information?

I noticed a few of your actions, e.g. the deletion of the quality page or the edit you repeatedly reverted on Cauliflower, cited in their summary that the information was "redundant" or "already covered elsewhere", and I'm trying to understand why that's a problem. In my experience, some redundancy is inevitable with the sharing of useful information, and obviously there are central pages like the Crops page that provide information which you could also get from the individual pages. What's the difference there?

I'm partly asking because I would like to create a page for item quality, and would prefer not to have to redirect to the Crop Quality section of the Crops page, which is the only other place I see the Item Quality mechanic summarized (and not everything is a crop, so that feels out of place). I'm also wondering what you think of my own addition to Cauliflower (this being an example of where Quality page might be useful; I admit, however, that I forgot to preview my edit because I assumed quality would exist). Even if my contribution's not redundant except by the absolute strictest definition (as far as I can tell, cauliflower's use in the luau is only otherwise mentioned on Luau)… IDK, I guess I just want to make sure I'm on the same page about what kind of contributions, particularly additions, are wanted, so I don't waste my time.--Twisted Code (talk) 20:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure you wouldn't want me to waste my time explaining past edits and reversions over again, so I'm not sure exactly what your question is. You want to create a page that was already rejected, but without wasting time on it. I'm sorry, I don't think I'm able to give you what you're asking. margotbean (talk) 20:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I am asking why the page was rejected, so that I don't contribute something that isn't wanted (this would've been a better way to put it than "waste my time", sorry for the tone. Though if I may say, I don't think explaining oneself is ever a waste of time, as long as the listener is receptive). The deletion log only says "Info is covered on individual pages", which doesn't make much sense to me, unless this was elaborated on somewhere. Regardless of the exact reason, I think "quality" seems like a keyword describing a mechanic, and that keywords should have their own articles, separate from the individual pages affected by the mechanic the keyword describes. It's not like it's a minor mechanic. It affects gifting, sale prices, and there are many ways it can be increased (e.g. fertilizer in the case of crops or annually in the case of fruit trees), that seems worth explaining in one place. However, you seem to disagree (rather strongly, based on this interaction thus far, though my poor choice of words did not help), and I want to know why. --Twisted Code (talk) 23:01, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

You know, it's amazing what a bit of rest can do for one's understanding of a problem. I think I may have been focusing too hard on that specific deleted page. While, yes, I would say I have rather strong feelings that Quality eould be useful, and I'd like for you to see the potential I see, I think it's more important for me to get a general understanding of what sorts of broader wiki improvements would be acceptable. I normally, when I edit wikis, stick to mostly basic stuff like copyediting the grammar and (if need be) spelling, but sometimes I might want to improve a wiki in broader strokes. Does Wikipedia's "be bold" apply to this site, or to what extent should I beholding off and waiting for some form of greenlight (and what would constitute a greenlight per this wiki's governance)?--Twisted Code (talk) 15:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Most of what you seek can be found by reading Help:Editing. What that page doesn't say is that there is a major game release (version 1.6) coming soon, with added content and multiple code changes, so any major (and even some more minor) structural or formatting changes to the wiki are on hold until after that chaos is over. Opening a discussion on a talk page about proposed changes is still a-ok, however. I hope this helps. margotbean (talk) 18:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Pearls spawning in floors 1-29 of The Dangerous Mines

In The Dangerous Mines, in floors 1-29, you can find Beach Foraging items, such as Clam, Coral, Rainbow Shells, Seaweed, etc. And since finding Pearls is rare, through Artifact Troves, a Fish Pond filled up with 10 Crabs, etc. When people were playing, and as well us, we found a Pearl in The Dangerous Mines, is this in the game code, we can add it to the Mines Wiki page if it says yes. Dive right in if you have time. 9000 (talk) 4:02, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Page(s) for Speedrun Information

I am theValiantSun, one of the admins for the Stardew Valley Speedrun community. We were wondering if it would be possible/allowed to add some pages to the Wiki which would contain information about the speedrun community (namely some basic rules and FAQ) which are currently only accessible through the Discord. While creating our own independent wiki could also make sense, we thought that it would be worth asking about since the modding community also lives on this wiki and we believe that speedrunning is a valuable part of the game's community.

Currently, the Speedrun Community has over 2,000 followers and 790 players on SRC and our Discord has over 2,000 members. Speedrunning the game has recently been featured at large scale charity events including Awesome Games Done Quick 2023. We believe that this community has the opportunity to grow should the information be more readily available to other people.

We understand that maintenance of pages can be a chore and (as such) have a small team of admins (including potentially familiar names such as Bla_De and Underscore) who have agreed to help with upkeep of these new pages. Related to another post I saw, we also have some admins who are experts on glitches (which is a category of the game) who has volunteered to help upkeep such a page if there is interest for it.

Thank you for your time! --TheValiantSun (talk) 14:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello ValiantSun! Thank you for your well thought-out and persuasive comment.

You should know, however, that I was strongly opposed to adding the modding section to the wiki in the first place. I was overruled by the Chucklefish Admin at the time, and so the wiki has a modding section. I still think it belongs on its own separate wiki, to be brutally honest. I would be happy to link to it, and to a speedrunning wiki, if one exists, but I don't think it belongs on the wiki itself. I'm terribly sorry, it's not a reflection on the speedrunning community or speedrunning itself. Thank you, margotbean (talk) 20:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)